September 19, 200322 yr I've been flying windowed mode because of the ati bug, but switched back to full screen for a while and noticed a huge difference in quality of textures (better) and hardly any flickering. I'm using the ati 9800 pro. Does this make sense? I thought the quality was the same for both...billg
September 19, 200322 yr Windowed mode is 2D. Like you, I prefer what I see in full screen mode. I'll accept the screen flickering (ATI has stated that they'll fix the problem in the CAT 3.8's... we'll see).Even with the couple of problems the ATI cards have in full screen mode, they nevertheless make this sim look stunning.
September 20, 200322 yr Greg, I bought the 9800 pro a week or so ago and had some problems. Today I bought another 9800 pro and geforce fx 5900 ultra. Told the shop that if it was a compatibility problem with the ati and my system I'd bring both ati cards back and keep the geforce, or keep the 2nd ati if it was just a bad card and return it and the geforce. Turns out it was a bad card...Now the interesting part. I tried the geforce card (of course, hehe), and there is no comparison between the ati and the geforce in terms of the way the sim looks, and I mean everything--aircraft, ground textures, clouds, you name it. The ati not only looks better but it's 20 to 30% faster. I'll gladly put up with the menu flickering for a few weeks until the next drivers come out.I'll do some more testing and playing around but the ati looks like the clear winner in my books.billg
September 20, 200322 yr No, windowed mode is 3D in a window! They look virtually identical on my 9700 Pro . . .Noel Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
September 20, 200322 yr Is there any difference is framerate between full screen and windowed mode with the ATI cards? I have a 9600 Pro and I've always used the windowed mode 'cause I use multi-monitors for the panels, radio stack etc.
September 20, 200322 yr "No, windowed mode is 3D in a window! They look virtually identical on my 9700 Pro . . ."Not on mine... not even close.Panda234... yep, I'll not soon forget the day I changed out my GF4 4600 for my 9700 Pro. My jaw dropped!! It was amazing. And, as you said, faster too!
September 20, 200322 yr Hmm, so your card is not doing 3D in a window. Wonder why? Image quality in either mode is fantastic, and again, identical.Noel Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
September 20, 200322 yr Author The difference might be because of different resolution settings for the desktop and within the sim. If you've set your desktop to 16 bit, say, and resolution on the hardware tab in FS2004 to a 32-bit resolution, that would explain a difference. Size matters too, of course...Best,Martijn
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