Noel

To me, that is mostly urban legend, the 'clouds looked fantastic', and I know many others agree with your expressed sentiment. I think it stemmed from many simmers first exposure to volumetric clouds going out to the horizon, and that left a good taste in one's mouth. I think the entire weather picture now is actually more plausible. I remember the nasty volcanic ash clouds pre-SU5 and the voxel technology used to render clouds then was the same as it is now: very low resolution, which makes it impossible to render crisp edged and highly detailed cloud morphology. It's like they're asked to make detailed clouds out of cotton candy. I think we're stuck with that until a new rendering paradigm or more potent hardware arrives or both. The other reality for me was the pre-SU5 clouds did not seem hard on performance at all and I had a much lesser system than I have now, so not sure why they changed whatever was changed.

I'm thinking about replacing my current LG Ultragear 3440x1440 HDR10 Gsync curved display and wonder if there is anything you found troubling in terms of image quality or screen behavior after the move to OLED from LED. If you use NV DLSS Frame Generation, how is rate-related flicker you sometimes get compared to LED screen technology? Probably should respond only if you're using an OLED PC monitor versus an OLED TV screen.

Just installed the update, and it's borked. Went to activate stairs and an error message pops up and won't proceed. Quite frankly rather than pushing out updates nearly weekly that take several minutes to process and essentially change nothing I ever experience except rarely, I'd much rather he did these less frequently. Addendum: just the install was borked hopefully as I ran the 'check' which appears to be another install and it seems okay so far now.

It's amazing--the fact I can't hardly tell the difference between frames before the switch and after!

Thanks all...I think I'll stay put with AIRAC cycles only. I find AI traffic is busy enough as is and would not want more as smoothness tends to diminish the more traffic there is, and just like in the RW I'm not interested in waiting 20 minutes to takeoff 🙃. Cheers

Would there be any impact on AI traffic animation smoothness over non-live? BATC is better now for me than it has been historically vis a vis jerky animation, though it still happens just not as much as in past experience. If the user was blind to live v non-live, would they be able to tell it was live, or it would be essentially the same and so indistinguishable from non-live as I have now? Thanks!

I currently have the AIRAC cycles sub from Navigraph. BATC's traffic works well overall. Typically, as a user of SLC & BATC I rely on Simbrief's routing and as a result don't seem to have a need to look at Charts, which would be Greek to me anyway. On rare occasions if I want to look at and choose a specific STAR I will open and use LNM for that and it's fine. So, for a user such as myself, how would Ultimate impact BATC functioning? I think I read it brings realtime AI traffic, versus delayed or something like that. Is that really the gist of it? Thanks in advance

T'was probably me as I've said that more than once. But I can say now it's starting to morph into a useful ATC slowly and hopefully surely. The auto-respond voices are great and they're free.

Ditto, all of it! It is improving though so there's hope for a better product. Overall it's a net plus for sure and now I'm even using its traffic injector, though this morning after loading BATC and launching there was no GA or other aircraft at all at this rural airport in Cody, Wyoming. So launched FSLTL and lots of parked GA traffic appear as expected. I have parked traffic in BATC set to 10.

Slowly but surely...

And here I thought you left because you weren't seeing landing gear from far enough away. If you believe the most impressive, immersive and satisfying desktop flight sim in history is mediocre, because it's streaming-based only, when the fact remains it is fully operational 99.99% of its entire lifespan of now going on seven years at 24h/day, then what is keeping you here? And even pay for it? Pay for what? All of the free scenery and aircraft updates? How about MS' cost for server infrastructure build, maintenance and operation with zero subscription fees, all for a lousy $129 for a Premium Edition?

Kind of doubtful for me unless it requires no open interface during use as I have no room for another. I already have Self Loading Cargo up and running as well as BATC and overall, seems like it's enough comms with various entities. Presumably regional accents are being used, do we know?

That is the right question and out of EFIV the constraint is at 185kts or so, but I hand fly up to about FL010 and by the time we were at around FL066 constraint went to 220kts. I use the FD to stay on course and at altitude so doesn't seem like stall related.

This happened again this morning flying out of EFIV. No direct to next or subsequent waypoints fixed this. And here is the really bad part and to me this is clearly a defect, unless I simply don't understand what's happening which is very possible--in fact this tendency to bound upwards is probably related to why the plane AP does not engage: whenever this happens, when the autopilot will not engage when it appears it should be able to, the plane becomes bizarrely oversensitive to elevator inputs. Barely pull the yoke back and up she goes--very hard to control. Any other ideas?

I wish devs would implement letting the user open aircraft doors from the outside, and then being able to walk thru open doors via airstairs. Fenix does this and that is one reason that plane is a favorite. This allows one to walk up and into a plane, turn down the aisle and into the cockpit like pilots do in the RW. PMDG 777-200L doesn't let you walk thru an open door and I don't think you can open it from the outside. IFly's MAX 8 does not let you open doors from the outside either.

It's so true we live in a giant digital house of cards that is so vulnerable and we are ever more dependent on it. I'm stunned by how well it works overall with so many necessary pieces required to make it all work. Yes, my nickname is....Mr. Lucky😃

And the absolute reality here, from someone who has used MSFS 2020 from Day 1, then 2024 from Day...180...flying nearly EVERY DAY, and often 2-4x per day, the number of times its cloud architecture prevented me from flying is maybe 3-4 times, that's it.

That just seems so apropos, to request to extend approach etc, and it is surprising BATC has not got there yet. That said I do notice some things are improving in BATC. AI traffic animation is a bit better than it was last time I used BATC's injection, I'm having more smooth animations now than jerky, and just avoid staring when it's jerky. It's adjusting approach speed which is probably a good thing. It will permit me to Direct to Fix more often than in past tries. And the dynamic auto-respond controller voices are decent enough so I will buy less Premium voices. And for vectoring, it does seem to be improving overall.

Thanks for that, saw it, never tried it ;o) Flying out of Bilbao just now it was pretty good--I like that traffic is well spaced, not so busy as FSLTL has been with my settings, and as one plane landed it was quite smooth.

Good points. What I will do is when using smaller airports will use BATC's traffic, and for big terminals revert back to FSLTL. When I asked about other accents in the Premium voices I am pretty sure you said more were coming, more Capt's voice options for different languages. I'm not seeing it yet but I'm on the EA version. Any more news on that?

It's definitely improving but still has some odd issues as it simply does not appreciate your plane's altitude relative to distance from the arrival runway when it instructs to turn 90 degrees to capture a localizer or what have you and you're way too high to be doing that.

Thanks but I have tried every possible solution and my guess is it comes down to latency issues with Simconnect. It's not bad if you don't observe closely.

Some folks don't notice this. Our friend from Norway, Cpt Piett, said he never noticed this until I showed him a video, at which point he noticed this low quality animation in his own use of BATC. I'm just starting a fly from LIPZ>EBBR w/ BATC traffic and will see shortly if this persists. I've got high bandwidth internet as well. Shortly: at LIPZ, just one plane taxiing to parking, and one plane landing on 4R, and both were very smooth, so hopeful. I say that because there were times in the past when animation was smooth, but more often than not, herky jerky. We'll see on the arrival side how things are. Of note, using FSLTL much more traffic parked, taxiing and flying in and out. I have BATC parking at 10, other sliders at 5. Hopeful though ;o) Well, not so much. At arrival, back to jerky animation of a plane landing, then taxiing. It's not bad as long as you don't look too closely 😉

And that...is why I consider BATC ambience mainly.

Interesting. If you just had FSLTL models do you know if if would still be smooth? I'll try turning their traffic on next time up, but I'm not using Ultimate as I just have the AIRAC cycles sub. Not sure how it would become smooth as butter from its new connection to source data but you're saying it has. The other reason I don't use their traffic is that I do prefer and pay for Premium voices in BATC, and when you use BATC traffic the chatter between traffic and controllers uses up those Premium voices big time, compared to just communication with me only which is what happens when I use FSLTL's traffic injection, which also of course delivers butter smooth animation, but at a cost since it is not aware of my presence. One of things I do to add consequences to my flying is use a flight scoring app, but also I do have crash damage enabled so I have to pay attention to collision risk and manage accordingly.