How come I can not turn on auto pilot for LOC/GS holding for Approach?I press the LOC button and/or the APPR nothing happens the LOC is set is active but the autopilot won't hold to ILS only on the other menu (PFD) displays Speed|ALT|HDG| it should say LOC below heading but nothing ever changes these are displayed on PFD where the info for LOC shows to be.Also when holding ALT I can not seem to disable the HDG hold does the |use no defoult bank| apply to PSS airbuses as in if AP enabled you can not turn is it like that for real if so I will just leave it alone, but I cannot get the autopilot to hold to the approach any sugestions are welcome?Thanks

http://www3.sympatico.ca/andy.gorecki/images/a330.jpgpic of what my panel looks like when I can't turn on autopilot

Clicking on the APPR (approach) button will lock onto the ILS. I'm not sure if you can use APPR and LOC at the same time, however, you can use both AP's when in APPR mode. There's more in the manual.- Martin

First Off Here's a PIC I did to proove that it workshttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/39701.jpgSecond Some Factors, How far away from the LOC are you?I don't activate it until I'm turning into the ILS Your Flight Director is not on Your Flaps should not be set that Low until the ILS is captured Big chance to stall thereIs your Approach Phase activated ?Did you Update the Approach Page ?Have you compleated the Manual & Tutorial Flight ?Finally On The Approach http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/39703.jpgIt Does work could be that your just Missing a Important Step SomewhereCheers

Shouldn't the flight director be on?I believe it has some influence on how the flight control system works on some planes.

Flight Director only shows where the autopilot would steer the plane, if it were you. ;)I'll elaborate on my earlier post. I found that the A330 could be made to capture the ILS the same way other aircraft can:- Set ILS freq. This is done in the MCDU on the "Rad Nav" page.- Get your plane close to the glideslope so that the autopilot doesn't have to do all the work. Below it is good.- Turn the autopilot on, set altitude, to maintain height until the GS is intercepted. Click the "APPR" button.The autopilot will steer the aircraft to intercept the ILS, and when it intercepts the GS, it will turn the altitude off and start the descent. This can all be done without the benefit of any function of the MCDU, other than the Rad Nav page, since this is where you tune the ILS freq. You can also set the speed on the autopilot during the approach, but it is not necessary.I've noticed some "cute" things about the MCDU. When you set the ILS freq, sometimes it automatically enters the correct course for you. Maybe it just checks its database to see what ILS is nearby? Also, I find the whole MCDU complex, and so I am just learning as much as I can. It's like a sim-within-a-sim. Anyway, I've noticed that the autopilot is not tied to the "real" autopilot, which I've used from within FSNavigator to control the aircraft. No matter what you've set in the A330 autopilot, FSNavigator will still control the airplane. It's a nice feature for those of us at the shallow end of the learning curve.- Martin- Martin

Your EW/D seems to indicate that you never completed the take-off configuration check. I'm not saying this is the true cause of your problem, but it implies you're not following the correct procedures. Have you tried the tutorial flights? These will guide you though all the important stages of flying the bus.Ian

>I press the LOC button and/or the APPR nothing happens the LOC>is set is active but the autopilot won't hold to ILS only on>the other menu (PFD) displays Speed|ALT|HDG| it should say LOC>below heading but nothing ever changes these are displayed on>PFD where the info for LOC shows to be.This question comes up quite often in the PSS forum on the A320. I know you are talking about the A330 but I suspect some code is shared across all the airbus models. I get this effect on the A320 every time if I follow the tutorial flight to the letter. Yet I can fly simple takeoff and land circuits at the destination airfield and the LOC works perfectly. The tutorial flight takes around 4 hours, so I haven't had time to experiment with omitting different steps in the flight to see what is causing the problem.PSS forum suggestions have included making sure an aircraft is selected with avionics on before loading the A320. It didn't work for me. Good luck!

"Set ILS freq. This is done in the MCDU on the "Rad Nav" page"Actually You should Never have to set the ILS at all If you've input everything correctly into the MCDUWhich Means your NOT setting up your approach right "I've noticed that the autopilot is not tied to the "real" autopilot, which I've used from within FSNavigator to control the aircraft"So you Saying the AutoPilot on FS Nav is the REAL autopilot?Whats the point of Buying The PSS Product Than ?And the Only thing the FS Nav can do Is LNAVCheers

You should not still have the TO memo on the lower ECAM when you are at this phase of the flight, so you omitted something prior to take-off, usually either the TO Config button or the v1,vr,v2 numbers. With this error the FMGS is basically confused as to where you are and what you want. Make sure the TO memo is "no blue" prior to take off and that everything else is set up properly to follow the various phases of the flight including activating the apparoach, setting all the approach info into the MCDU and checking the RAD NAV page is showing the ILS correctly and that you are not too high. LLZ/GS capture should then not be a problem

>>"I've noticed that the autopilot is not tied to the "real">autopilot, which I've used from within FSNavigator to control>the aircraft">>So you Saying the AutoPilot on FS Nav is the REAL autopilot?>Whats the point of Buying The PSS Product Than ?>>And the Only thing the FS Nav can do Is LNAVNo, the REAL autopilot is the one in FS itself, which the A330 doesn't use. Instead, it has it's own autopilot coded into its own software. I think that's pretty clever, but the unintended consequence was that if you set the "real" autopilot through FSNavigator then it will take over control from the A330 autopilot.As for "the point of buying PSS...". Well, I guess we have different reasons, because I have never been impressed with FMC's, but I think the outstanding visual model and flight characteristics made it worth the money. I'll still learn the MCDU, but I'm already satisfied without having to do so.- Martin

Well I never used the MCDU maybe I have to use it with this panel, I just wanted to takeoff make a circle and land do it to see how autopilot will work for approach but I never used MCDU just set the ILS Freq normally like you would on any other regular FS Aircraft, I will try with the MCDU...The point is not to see if it works using Tutorial I am pretty sure that it will work using tutorial but I looke through it and it talks about using MCDU when they say insert the Rwy for KORD etc.. well I didn't want to use the MCDU, but maybe there is just no other way and this might be possible, but you don't have info in tutorial that you can not do it without MCDU.. so I would never know.Thanks for your info guys I will go and try it with the MCDU.Andy

Would somebody please clarify which type aircraft/model/panel is being discussed? Interesting thread, but I have no idea whose plane you are talking about.I noticed a "landing light" message on one of the ECAM displays. That's a work of fiction on the A330. What is the meaning of the "Landing Inhibit" message? A new one as well.For autoland, yes, the FD should be engaged and land mode is selected with AP and AT on and APR selected. LOC will only track the localizer.BChttp://jdtllc.com/images/RCsupporter.jpg

BC,We're discussing the PSS A330. I guess this should really be in the PSS forum.The 'LDG INHIBIT' message is a perfectly normal message during the landing phase indicating that certain informational messages have been suppressed from the display so that it is not cluttered. It does not indicate that you are prevented from landing.Ian