October 27, 201015 yr Hello everyone. I've redownloaded RC as I'm getting back into FSX once again, and I use both FS Commander and FS Build to create my flight plans. I had a perfect flight plan going from KSFO to KLAX via SADDE6.AVE. I'm flying the level-d 767 and while my flight path is perfect for an ILS approach, about halfway through the flight RC ATC comes on and tells me to change course off my flight path. He also tells me to change FL as I was doing fine at FL330, but he wants FL280. The question I have is, why is ATC telling me to change course? I mean it was a complete direction change practically and I don't understand why. I can understand the FL change maybe due to other AI traffic or weather, but a complete course change?I need to do the tutorials still but I was hoping to get some insight from you guys on why ATC tells me to go a completely different heading. What are some of the experiences you guys have had, and why?Thanks.
October 27, 201015 yr First, the plan sent to RC and your FMC, including SID and STAR waypoints must agree. FS Build can export plans to your FMC and RC/FS and should be used for both. Many users prefer to import the entire FSB plan including the expanded SID and STAR waypoints into the FMC and not use the FMC SID/STAR database so everything stays in sync. The only thing from the FMC that I use from its database is the IAP (approach) which I enter after RC assigns the runway. It should easily be changed in the FMC if needed followed by closing the discontinuity on your FMC legs page. That places the extended runway center line and target altitudes on your navigation display for situational awareness as your being vectored to intercept the localizer. It helps in applying your aircraft speed and flap schedule.You say you use FSC as well. Just be sure the same plan is used for the FMC and FS/RC. I don't understand why you need both.RC calculates a TOD (top of descent) point based on descending from your present position to a crossing restriction altitude and will step you down. Your FMC or flight planner does not care about crossing restrictions but you could enter one on your FMC at about 40 nm out from destination if you wish. In the FMC I just use a range ring and adjust V/S and airspeed for descent guidance watching the green trend arcs to insure I'll make it. RC uses the 3:1 rule for descent from your present position altitude to the crossing restriction altitude anout 40 nm out to start you down at an estimated constant idle descent rate. Be sure you have checked the proper aircraft class in the general tab of RC (heavy, jet, turbo prop, prop).Your original descent from cruise can be delayed in many cases if option 3 (unless reassigned), PD for pilot's discretion start of descent, is requested.As far as the change of course, you may be being setup for a specific pattern but that usually does not happen until 40 nm out.After acknowledging your initial vector from approach you can go to the extended menu (usually option 9) to request an IAP of your type and choice of runway but in general RC is aware of AI patterns and picks the best runway taking AI first into consideration, then weather and runway/navaid characteristics. An IAP means that vectoring will totally stop and you can navigate your own way in following your FMC or GPS or charts. RC will stay quiet until you are on final. If you want vectors but have flexibility to deviate choose notams in the controller tab of RC preflight.
October 27, 201015 yr First, the plan sent to RC and your FMC, including SID and STAR waypoints must agree. FS Build can export plans to your FMC and RC/FS and should be used for both. Many users prefer to import the entire FSB plan including the expanded SID and STAR waypoints into the FMC and not use the FMC SID/STAR database so everything stays in sync. The only thing from the FMC that I use from its database is the IAP (approach) which I enter after RC assigns the runway. It should easily be changed in the FMC if needed followed by closing the discontinuity on your FMC legs page. That places the extended runway center line and target altitudes on your navigation display for situational awareness as your being vectored to intercept the localizer. It helps in applying your aircraft speed and flap schedule.You say you use FSC as well. Just be sure the same plan is used for the FMC and FS/RC. I don't understand why you need both.RC calculates a TOD (top of descent) point based on descending from your present position to a crossing restriction altitude and will step you down. Your FMC or flight planner does not care about crossing restrictions but you could enter one on your FMC at about 40 nm out from destination if you wish. In the FMC I just use a range ring and adjust V/S and airspeed for descent guidance watching the green trend arcs to insure I'll make it. RC uses the 3:1 rule for descent from your present position altitude to the crossing restriction altitude anout 40 nm out to start you down at an estimated constant idle descent rate. Be sure you have checked the proper aircraft class in the general tab of RC (heavy, jet, turbo prop, prop).Your original descent from cruise can be delayed in many cases if option 3 (unless reassigned), PD for pilot's discretion start of descent, is requested.As far as the change of course, you may be being setup for a specific pattern but that usually does not happen until 40 nm out.After acknowledging your initial vector from approach you can go to the extended menu (usually option 9) to request an IAP of your type and choice of runway but in general RC is aware of AI patterns and picks the best runway taking AI first into consideration, then weather and runway/navaid characteristics. An IAP means that vectoring will totally stop and you can navigate your own way in following your FMC or GPS or charts. RC will stay quiet until you are on final. If you want vectors but have flexibility to deviate choose notams in the controller tab of RC preflight.Thanks Ron. I'm still learning RC and I appreciate the help. I had originally bought FSC a long time ago, and then bought FS Build last year so I redownloaded both. Honestly I like FS Build alot better.
October 28, 201015 yr Commercial Member Hello everyone. I've redownloaded RC as I'm getting back into FSX once again, and I use both FS Commander and FS Build to create my flight plans. I had a perfect flight plan going from KSFO to KLAX via SADDE6.AVE. I'm flying the level-d 767 and while my flight path is perfect for an ILS approach, about halfway through the flight RC ATC comes on and tells me to change course off my flight path. He also tells me to change FL as I was doing fine at FL330, but he wants FL280. The question I have is, why is ATC telling me to change course? I mean it was a complete direction change practically and I don't understand why. I can understand the FL change maybe due to other AI traffic or weather, but a complete course change?I need to do the tutorials still but I was hoping to get some insight from you guys on why ATC tells me to go a completely different heading. What are some of the experiences you guys have had, and why?Thanks.if you tried ronzie suggestions, and are still having a problem, make a log. instructions pinned to the top of the forum. be sure to click debug before loading the .plnduplicate the problem, and send me the log. i can tell you what's going onjd JD Read my blog
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