As is ATI on the 9600 line (including the now "older" Pro). Actually, they may still be with TSMC, but I know they've contracted IBM for their current or future fab. In any case, the 9600 series is 0.13 and the new 9600XT is 0.13 using low-k dielectric, as is the 5700.Take care,Elrond

>As is ATI on the 9600 line (including the now "older" Pro). >Actually, they may still be with TSMC, but I know they've>contracted IBM for their current or future fab. In any case,>the 9600 series is 0.13.>>Take care,>>ElrondHi Elrond, I updated the above post with some info for you, sorry I am one of those one finger typing slogs. :)Anyways I think ATI will be sticking with TSMC:http://www.pcstats.com/releaseview.cfm?releaseID=972

While I'm not a slogger, I've been know to be called a slobber. :-)That erols site has great info, thanks for the link.Take care,Elrond

Machine performance is made up of much more than the graphics card and processor speed. RAM quality and speed, the motherboard, the chipset; all play a vital part in system performance.I get better than 30fps almost always with sliders maxed out. That's with 4x AA and 8x AF.Jim

I don't know. For me, Halo is more of a slow moving game, but that's probably because I spend a lot of my time cowering in corners with wet drawers.Jim