As I hate auto-installers with a vengeance, I popped over the ISD's site to have a look in the forum there to see if there were any relevant posts to my captioned question. Sure enough, there are plenty of posts, alright, all from people with problems with the self-installer. I tried to register to make my own post but their registration doesn't work - for me, anyway. So ...... does anyone know if it's possible to install this new Irish scenery manually? It's not clear to me whether it will start making changes to CFG files if I use the autoinstall, and I don't want that.Any input appreciated ... forgive my hesitation, but out of four self-installers downloaded from Avsim this week, three were faulty. Those all had an option to change the destination to a temp folder, but I'm not sure the Irish one does as it hunts the registry.I know people use these self-installers to make it easier for some, but I just hope that scenery of the quality of this one at least gives us an option to go the manual route. I don't want to press the GO button, however, and then find out too late that it doesn't.Mark "Dark Moment" Beaumonthttp://www.swiremariners.com/newlogo.jpg

Mark,I did the autoinstaller thing with the previous version and sure enough, it installed itself in both, FS2004 and FS2002, making changes to my scenery.cfg. So yes, it will do that. Of course, I moved it to a folder of my chosing which resulted in a few hours of "repairing".I also dislike autoinstallers. A lot. I'll try to make a dummy installation of the newest version here at work, then move it manually to my flying PC. I'll let you know. :)Regards,JureBush Flying Unlimited]"At home in the wild"[/i

MarkI have just d/loaded from their site and they say that they have a new installer. I assume that you know about this?Also, like Jure, I always make a dummy install on another computer so that I can manually install into FS at a later date.David

I have a similar problem. I re-installed Windows recently and FS9 isn't in the registry, I just put the .exe on the desktop and start it from there. The Irish scenery installer, (and various other installers), just says I don't have FS9 installed.I guess my Q is, does anyone know what registry key I need? If not, will reinstalling FS9 wipe all my addons ? I've got tons and it would make me cry if I had to d/l them all over again. Or is there a way to extract all the files from the Irish .exe?Any help would be great. I guess I could just reinstall FS9 in another drive and change the paths in the registry manually, but thought I'd ask first 'cause that would be a pain.

Easiest way to establish the registry entries is to rename your current fs9 installation to fs9a or something, do a bare bones FS9 new install in the same location. This will establish the reg entries, then delete the installation you made and rename your old FS9 installation back to FS9 again. DoneRegardsTimhttp://www.spottedantelope.com/bwomack/ima...aam-sim_sig.gif

>As I hate auto-installers with a vengeance,.........I'm with you Mark. The biggest computer problems I have ever had came as a result of auto-install programs gumming things up and changing things on me.I understand that some feel they are providing a valuable service by using these programs but I sure wish we had a choice to go manual and download a simple zip. I see no need at all for an aircraft or scenery file to show up on the start menu or make unnecessary registry entries.While many may disagree, I feel that if you are not willing to learn the simple (and usually much safer)task of manually installing an aircraft or scenery to the sim then perhaps FS/computing is the wrong hobby for you.

<<>>Absolutely. It got to a point with FS2002 for me that the Start Menu no longer showed all entries because there were too many, meaning important work stuff disappeared off the side of the screen and couldn't be shown.After much weeding, I've rid myself of most of them, but only after deleting dozens of UNINSTALL files and so on.I know that many do need these installers; I zip all my own work but I do get a number of emails from people who really don't know where to start with such downloads (or don't read READMEs, of course). But, as you correctly point out, if you're serious enough about this hobby to want to start building a freeware/payware collection, then surely you're serious enough to be able to cope with Windows Explorer and an UNZIP utility.Mark "Dark Moment" Beaumonthttp://www.swiremariners.com/newlogo.jpg

TimW is wise... thanks alot bro.

Hi Guys...Nick here from IFSD....I don't want to get into a "installer or no installer" argument, but let me say the following:With our first version, we did not have an installer, we had just a zip file. However, the amount of queries we got on the forum from people who could not install manually was a nightmare and too much to handle. That is why we went down the installer route.However... that said... it appears that the new scenery library in FS2004 is different from FS2002 and putting it bluntly - cocks up things for a lot of people.I am in the process of thinking about all of this at the moment and trying to get a "balance" between the non-technical user and the technical user.I may write the installer so that it will give a choice at the start and if you choose to install manually, it will just ask you what location you want to unzip the files to....Leave it with me for a while... I will come up with something.Cheers,Nick Whittome.

Well, this quickly turned into a auto-installer poll, didn't it?I hate auto-installers, becuase I like to put my scenery files in a specific place so I can find them later. I am comfortable with this level of control. I especially hate the idea of throwing everything into the "add-on" folder. However, like Nick said, there will always be lots of people who don't necessarily know where to put the scenery files. I think this may be a trend, with more new users each year for FS. I get lots of questions from people who never bothered to read the ample documentation that I always include with my scenery and aircraft.Maybe we need two versions of everything now? - Martin

Nick,Most appreciated. I have all your files sitting in a sort of holding pattern because I too hate auto-installers. I think the idea you mentioned is brilliant. On the side, how is the new Shannon scenery coming along?