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Who flies over the alps?

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Hi guys,In preperation for the 737NGX I though I would post this drift down chart for you guys. It's taken straight from my electronic route manual which some of you might remmember from here. All I have done is remove the airline logo.Have fun,Martin Dahlerup

Martin Dahlerup

My rig contains a random selection of computer parts working in perfect harmony....

 

I hold a EASA fATPL + A320 SIC rating and a FAA CPL with CFI rating.

Thanks for the chart Martin. Going to print and use this one day...

Sam Crawford

"Don't judge the intelligence of an individual by the number of posts that they have made. Wait until they say something stupid first."

 

CTC Cadet - www.ctcwings.co.uk

 

Just a big thank you!I flly often in my real city (Milan), very close to Alps...so it will be very useful...Can i ask you a simple thing: for the access to the eRM manual on internet do you need a specific login/password by the airline, right? It will be so great to have access to those "secret" files...Big%20Grin.gifCheers

Paolo Fumagalli

 

"Everyday is a new flight, with new system to learn, new failures to prevent and new database to update..."

 

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Martin, How do you log into the Electronic Route Manual?

Ian McDougall

CPL MEIR 737-800

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Hi guys,I see a lot of downloads, but only two people have said "thank you". anyway, Ian and Paolo - To log into the eRM you have to be employed by an airline who uses EAG and be a pilot or you'll have to buy access for a few thousand $$$. I may post some 737NG specific charts for Innsbruck, but only if you guys are up for the challenge?Keep the blue side up,Martin Dahlerup

Martin Dahlerup

My rig contains a random selection of computer parts working in perfect harmony....

 

I hold a EASA fATPL + A320 SIC rating and a FAA CPL with CFI rating.

As i wodered it is some restricted access to the eRM...The Innsbruck charts that you can put here can be a great way to start some real amazing and challanging approach to this great airport...with a new and amazing NGX coming shortly...rolleyes.gifAny chart/information about the 737NG would be awesome...Cheers,

Paolo Fumagalli

 

"Everyday is a new flight, with new system to learn, new failures to prevent and new database to update..."

 

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Thanks for the chart, very interesting. Look forward to whatever you may post in the future. Always interesting to different procedures from around the world.

Ian McDougall

CPL MEIR 737-800

Honestly, My job has me flying over the alps almost every day, we never use this kind of chart. The thing is, in essence, you can suffer engine failure, and drift down but by the time you have drifted down, you'll 1) be across the alps, and 2) still be above the 'Minimum Grid Altitude' (highest of which is 18500ft over the alps)Different story when you lose all power source, or your aircraft has lower drift down levels. In those cases it is important to consider your strategy....But basically, engine failure flying south to north you have Milano, Venice, Turin, Geneva, Zurich, Lyon and some others around you which with 1 engine left, you'll make no problem.It's a nice chart though, well thought out, and could be usefull, but just so you guys know, it's not really very relevant or widely used. They have these charts for the himalaya's becuase, there you have a problem with MGA's being above your drift down level, and the nearest suiteable airport for landing usually is quite a long way to go.But Still, nice find!And thanks for sharing it, wasn't even aware this was around!Lenny Zaman

Honestly, My job has me flying over the alps almost every day, we never use this kind of chart. The thing is, in essence, you can suffer engine failure, and drift down but by the time you have drifted down, you'll 1) be across the alps, and 2) still be above the 'Minimum Grid Altitude' (highest of which is 18500ft over the alps)Different story when you lose all power source, or your aircraft has lower drift down levels. In those cases it is important to consider your strategy....But basically, engine failure flying south to north you have Milano, Venice, Turin, Geneva, Zurich, Lyon and some others around you which with 1 engine left, you'll make no problem.It's a nice chart though, well thought out, and could be usefull, but just so you guys know, it's not really very relevant or widely used. They have these charts for the himalaya's becuase, there you have a problem with MGA's being above your drift down level, and the nearest suiteable airport for landing usually is quite a long way to go.But Still, nice find!And thanks for sharing it, wasn't even aware this was around!Lenny Zaman
Lenny,You fly Avro, not?Loosing 1 engine ins't much to worry about in that case. :( Best Regards,Bert Van Bulck

I tend not to fly this part of the world - but gotta thank anyone supplying things that aren't readily available to the general public.Can anyone explain the purpose of this chart...I'm not familair with this.

Walter Trester

Maybe yes, It's not a common used chart, but in FS world you can try failures often...so i think it can be useful...some both engine failure with the upcoming NGX...;)Any source from the real world is a new and interesting thing to study...maybe not so used in the real world, but i like to see and read new material everyday...Cheers

Paolo Fumagalli

 

"Everyday is a new flight, with new system to learn, new failures to prevent and new database to update..."

 

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