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Anyone Using a 55" 3d TV as monitor?

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Was looking at a nice Samsung 55" 3D TV. Thinking, with Track Ir, 3d FSX, sitting 2-3 feet away from that bad boy should be immersive. The other thought it may be a bit much (bright) on the eyes. The refresh is approx 250hz. Either that or 3 x 24" monitors, or 3 x 32" TV's. The goal is immersion, and I read the 3d aspects of flying FSX is the cat's meow. All replies very welcome. What do you find adds immersion? Thanks for any replies.

Was looking at a nice Samsung 55" 3D TV. Thinking, with Track Ir, 3d FSX, sitting 2-3 feet away from that bad boy should be immersive. The other thought it may be a bit much (bright) on the eyes. The refresh is approx 250hz. Either that or 3 x 24" monitors, or 3 x 32" TV's. The goal is immersion, and I read the 3d aspects of flying FSX is the cat's meow. All replies very welcome. What do you find adds immersion? Thanks for any replies.
Be aware that the bigger the monitor/screen, the higher the resolution needed to avoid graininess. Higher resolution = more pixels, hence the computer has to work that much harder.And if you sit further away, then there is little gain in a bigger monitor- the goal being the widest possible Field of View. That is, you see nothing but FS ahead and around you. My choice is smaller triple monitors. Like an IMAX on your desktop. This little "IMAX" is actually 45" wide!AR
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Was looking at a nice Samsung 55" 3D TV. Thinking, with Track Ir, 3d FSX, sitting 2-3 feet away from that bad boy should be immersive. The other thought it may be a bit much (bright) on the eyes. The refresh is approx 250hz. Either that or 3 x 24" monitors, or 3 x 32" TV's. The goal is immersion, and I read the 3d aspects of flying FSX is the cat's meow. All replies very welcome. What do you find adds immersion? Thanks for any replies.
I have a 47" LCD with trackIR and I wouldn't go back to anything else. After you fly with a monitor that size even 32" seems too small.

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I have a 47" LCD with trackIR and I wouldn't go back to anything else. After you fly with a monitor that size even 32" seems too small.
Rob- What is your eye to screen distance? (or rather, what is the field of view angle? Can you sit close enough to fill your full peripheral vision.)I've often wondered about the potential of a large screen. See the attached screenshot with not only triple views, but the entire 2D cockpit including FO panel & most popups. (FO panel causes double windscreen posts.)This experiment was on a little 19"CRT- way to small to be useable- but I've always wondered what it would look like on a large screen such as yours!ARPMDG 747 Triple views on one screen experiment.(Black rectangles are unused Monitors 2&3)
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A compromise would be 3 x 32" Hi Def TV's. But hard to find a 3d TV that small, affordable priced, and desk to put it on. The 3 x 23" 3D monitors expensive. For the same money, a 3D 47" hi def.

A compromise would be 3 x 32" Hi Def TV's. But hard to find a 3d TV that small, affordable priced, and desk to put it on. The 3 x 23" 3D monitors expensive. For the same money, a 3D 47" hi def.
I'm not really up to date on the 3D TVs & their pros/cons re Flight Sim- I'm a bit sceptical on 3D merit but willing to be convinced.However, a triple monitor arrangement has a real advantage in that they can be physically arranged in an arc - effectively creating a (nearly) curved screen. This eliminates optical distortion since each screen can be square to the pilot's eyes. The result is that the horizon will maintain a straight line when the aircraft rolls. If you display triple views on a flat screen, the horizon bends in roll mode. Look again at the pic I posted and the single mon/triple views horizon bend is distinctive.This of course, is why professional commercial simulators typically use curved screens and projectors.There are concave monitors but very pricy. But so far there is no monitor that is concave both horizontally AND vertically! A pity, since that would correct for horizon bend in airplane pitch up/down- as well as roll!Finally if you use multiple small monitors you need less computer horsepower, since they can be run at low resolutions and still look good. The bigger the display, the more graininess if resolution is not increased.AR
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A guy who compromised.... 3 x 46" Monitors.

That should induce vertigo!
A guy who compromised.... 3 x 46" Monitors.
That should induce vertigo!
Interesting video, thanks for posting.TH2Go works really well with virtual FS display.If you prefer 2D panels (I do) with a fixed location for every gauge & switch plus a constant triple view (not varying due to panning or zooming in/out to observe various panel elements), then dual video cards is necessary to drive 3 monitors.AR
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Decided later this year, fixing my FSX visuals either 3x (?") monitors or one big daddy 3d unit. So far, bought a 15" secondary monitor for 2d panels IE: GPS, and enjoy having GPS etc on it's own display. It appears the 2 side monitors do add a greater sense of motion vs one unit as per YTube research. Prices of the large LCD / LED / Plasma keep decreasing thus an ideal set up would be 3 x units pending room and $$$. Three years ago 24" monitors were considered big. Now it appears 30-50+ inch units are becoming more popular. Hmmm... 3 x 24" monitor approx <----- 60 inches viewable -----> That being said, the 32" --- 50"+ have a nice height. Not to mention using track IR = another option. Be nice to find 3 X 32" LED 1920 x 1080 with very narrow bezel's and 3d to boot. That would give approx NINETY <------- 90 ------> INCHES of FSX splendor, with air sickness bag included! Lots to think about, interested in your set up's, appreciate the posts and ideas.

Interesting video, thanks for posting.TH2Go works really well with virtual FS display.If you prefer 2D panels (I do) with a fixed location for every gauge & switch plus a constant triple view (not varying due to panning or zooming in/out to observe various panel elements), then dual video cards is necessary to drive 3 monitors.AR
Decided later this year, fixing my FSX visuals either 3x (?") monitors or one big daddy 3d unit. So far, bought a 15" secondary monitor for 2d panels IE: GPS, and enjoy having GPS etc on it's own display. It appears the 2 side monitors do add a greater sense of motion vs one unit as per YTube research. Prices of the large LCD / LED / Plasma keep decreasing thus an ideal set up would be 3 x units pending room and $$$. Three years ago 24" monitors were considered big. Now it appears 30-50+ inch units are becoming more popular. Hmmm... 3 x 24" monitor approx <----- 60 inches viewable -----> That being said, the 32" --- 50"+ have a nice height. Not to mention using track IR = another option. Be nice to find 3 X 32" LED 1920 x 1080 with very narrow bezel's and 3d to boot. That would give approx NINETY <------- 90 ------> INCHES of FSX splendor, with air sickness bag included! Lots to think about, interested in your set up's, appreciate the posts and ideas.
One thing to consider is that the larger the monitor, the higher the resolution needed to prevent graininess. And higher resolutions on 3 monitors equals a lot of pixels, which then eat up lots of computer horsepower!Another point is that the human eye has only about 150º of useful peripheral vision (plus another 30º that can detect motion and shadow). If the pilot turns his head a little, the 150º FoV increases modestly- perhaps to the full 180º.There is not much to be gained in having a monitor array that spans more than 180º of the simmer's field of view.In my setup, 3 small LCDs (2 17"s, 1 19") placed about 26" from my eyes covers almost all my peripheral vision without head movement. They give me a perspective width of 45 inches.And the payoff with small monitors is that with lower resolutions you use less computer CPU.So multi monitors don't have to break the bank! Used small monitors are a dime a dozen.And yes, with a wide horizon and aerobatics, a barf bag may be handy! A 1/2 loop with a rollout on top (Immelmann) is quite exciting.)ARAerobatics over CYYJ- "Oh Oh- I think my harness locking pin just fell out!" (Horizon bend is caused by the screenie showing the mons in a flat plane rather than the real outer mons being angled toward me at about 40º.)
A guy who compromised.... 3 x 46" Monitors.
That should induce vertigo!
Cool! The 3x NEC Ultra Slim Bezel 46" LCDs would do it for me!Reason: In VC I really don't like the idea of 2x monitor bezel widths keeping my 3 monitor images from visually merging into one (and "fighting for attention" with the windscreen vertical columns).But with the NEC Ultra Slim Bezel 46" LCDs, that's another story.Cheers,- jahman.
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Been putting a lot of thought into this, the pro's and con's. This thought dawned on me today. The toughie is explaining and sneaking the big TV's into my small office / flight sim area. I just realized she would freak out if I walked into the house with 3 x 47" TV, since my desk is a small corner model, and our living room TV is only 27" which she thinks is a big unit as it replaced a 25" unit. Thus, I must compromise. I figured, the 55" unit as a monitor may cause a bit of a debate with the wife, since the 55" unit being almost 2 x bigger than our humble TV. As nice as it would be ... I guess at the end of the day, to keep peace and TV harmony flowing in the household.. 3 x 24" units would be easy to sneak past the wife... woops, I mean 3 x 24" very easy to explain. Use one for spread sheets, at the same time, another for invoicing, and the 3rd, web, e mails, etc. Have the side units on those retractable swing out arms so I can tuck the side units when not using them. A very good business decision to increase productivity. More monitors = faster paperwork = more money! A great business decision. I had a really nice 3d 55" unit picked out with high refresh rate to boot. Too hard to explain how practical it is for my office computer. I guess the moral of the story is to consider the wife in the decision part of buying gear for the flight sim. I find computer upgrades easy to accomplish. Stuff like motion platforms, large TV's, cockpits in the small office area hard to sneak ... errr... I mean explain. That's why I do not have a motion platform at present. I do not fly combat sims any more thus no need for the height of a monitor, thus width more important. Standing in front of a 55" 3d LED TV in the store, and visualizing FSX and a Turbine Duke buzzing a tree line made me forget the " How can I explain this purchase" aspect, (as it dawned upon me today), when the house needs flooring and the HRV system isn't installed yet after 15 years ... sigh. Time goes by fast and have a few pals kick off due to cancer and thought I better get my FSX "fix" before it is my turn to lawn dart in the game of life. But, one must be practical. I think the 3 x 24" units will be great, plus 24" monitors are cheap. I'll keep you posted as how this adventure pans out. With the extra money made from my increase of work, aided by the extra 2 monitors, I can buy my wife some flowers and a box of KFC for supper! Thanks for the ideas and pointing me in the right direction.

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