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2D panels go black or "inactive" on 2nd screen

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Hi there..I've got a new PC now, and some old problems are back.I open a 2D panel. I undock it and move it to my 2nd (or 3rd) screen. Here it remains static, means the image isn't updated when I press a button for example. The state of the panel will always stay the same. If I now move it back to the 1st screen, the panel flips to the state it should have. So the clickpoints are active and do what they should, but the "image" isn't updated.Yesterday it all went well, and today I got this now. But I didn't change anything..I had this similar on my old PC, but I don't know how I solved this. Updating the Videodriver is a nogo atm. I use the GTX580 and theolder 175.xx driver, since the 180.26 crashes when I plug in the 3rd (touch)screen.Any ideas..?Regards

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Matthias Hanel
 

MilViz Beta Team

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To add, updated to the latest 185 beta driver, but no change.

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Matthias Hanel
 

MilViz Beta Team

  • 1 month later...

G'day,I sure can sympathise with your problem. I am having something similar in regards to the window being inactive on a second or third display. On top of that if I try to resize the window it goes also black.I use to run FSX with 4 monitors on Win WX Pro with NO probs at all. Adjust, resize views the way I wanted and no probs.Have recently upgraded to Win7 Ultimate 64bit and now I am having this problem with FSX, all other software running just fine.Running i7 pprocessor, Nvidia 285 gtx card 4G ram. Two monitors directly connected to the PC and two other ones connected via a USB to DVI/VGA adapter Win7 accredited (DisplayLink) All hardware with updated drivers.I can moveresize any main displays of FSX. to the DisplayLink monitors, no problems. As soon as I select new window in FSX, undock it and move it to the monitors, they become inactive and turn black when resizing. I do not know whether this is a thing with FSX(acceleration) and Win7. As mentioned b4, the same hardware on Win XP no problems at all.Any suggestions most appreciated, thank youRegardsRichard

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Yeah thanks guys,As said b4 nothing has changed with my hardware as when I was running FSX on XP. Only changed over to Win7 Ult.All other stuff is running just fine on all displays. Even FSX is running just fine on all displays untill I picked a "new view", undocked it and moved it to a monitor connected via a USB-DVI adapter.See I am used to have FSX setup with Front view, Left and right view and Garmen GPS by it self. Front and left are on displays connected directly to my PC and right view and GPS on monitors via the USB-DVI adapter. All this was possible and no probs when I was running Win XP.Looks like I might have to downgrade again to XP if I cannot find a solution for this.Anyways thanks again guys and happy flying.CheersRichard

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HI all.I have the same problem as you guys. "upgraded" to WIN7, and on the monitor I have connected to my Kensington USB display adapter connected to, the undocked panels will no longer make updates. But I also noticed that I can not play videofiles on the "usb-monitor" as I have no problems doing in XP. So either it is a WIN7 thing, or a display driver issue. I have another computer with old drivers for my GTX280, and I will try to install it on that to see if that gives any change.But if it is a WIN7 thing, and as XP 32 bit is no longer possible due to constant OOM, how about an XP with 64 bit? Could that be a solution?Best RegardsBjarne Sorensen

Hi Guys,some idea's,I remember some GPS units required you to start up and shut down in 'windowed' mode. This did cause similar issues to me a while back. Shutting down and restarting in full screen fixed it. Once FSX was started in full screen, it could be changed and panels move resized, and all was well. Something worth checking.Could be that hardware acceleration for you video card's second monitor has been disabled.Go into display properties, where you see the monitor layout, select the one giving problems, then advanced, then troubleshoot.Now, XP allowed you to disable/enable acceleration, with a slider, but Win 7 won't run without it, so the option to change should be greyed out, meaning, it's on and working Ok, However, if it's not greyed out, then go in and turn it on. The primary monitor will be greyed for sure, ( Win 7 ) but the second one may have it disabled.next, make sure you check in FSX > display section, select the problem monitor and check it's not using 16 bit resolution etc. must be 32 bit.I can't think of anything else at the moment,Ron.

Hi RonThank you for your inputs. I tried them all, but unfortunately it did not solve the problem. But im quite sure the problem lies in the video acceleration, as the monitor cannot play videos. Somtimes it can show the video for a few seconds, but then it freeezes. Im quite sure it is a WIN7 problem. I have not tried with the old drivers yet, but I doubt it will have any effect.If anyone found an USB display adapter that works with FSX and WIN7 I would like to know so I can replace my kensington.Best RegardsBjarne SorensenBest RegardsBjarne Sorensen

Strange indeed,I use Win 7 64bit, and run 3 displays with no problems, using 2 video cards, undock, resize, update no problems, so it's not a Win 7 thing.more ideas;Have a quick look in Inspector, in your FS profile you are using. In the 'Common' section;make sure that the 'Multi-display / mixed GPU Acceleration' line reads; Multiple display performance mode. ( not single display mode )or if this is the setting, try the single modes.If not using inspector, same thing can be found in nvidia control panel, in manage 3d settings.I used to use Nview for working with multiple monitors and this was installed with drivers in XP. Win 7 does not install it for whatever reason.It is still there, called nview.cab and it can be found where ever you put the nvidia drivers. If you extract this to a separate folder it will install, just run setup. most things are still ther but not all.Then you could turn on desktop manager and click 'windows' tab to 'Enable window spanning across multiple displays ( also child spanning ).Ron.

Hi Ron.It seems that USB display adapters are handled differently in WIN7, as everyone is having the same issues only in WIN7, and not in XP - but the problem seems to be restriced to USB videocards or USB monitors. I think the best way to add more monitors is to do like you and add a second videocard. What kind of card to you use as secondary cards - I guess it does not have to bee a top notch card.Best RegardsBjarne

Hi Bjarne,I use GTX570 with Triplehead2go, I call first display, then I have older Gs8400 for instruments, on 15", then tv out (on 8400 ) for small 5" screen and GPS. works fine and second card does not have to be great, just for these. Ron.

Hi all,Great to read all these posts. But I have fixed my prob. Part of the driver of the usb-dvi adapter would just not uninstall, hence impossible to install the correct updated driver for win7(64). On the maker of the unit I found a section where they had a DOS style uninstaller in case of troubles uninstalling. Guess what, it worked. Installed the newest driver for the units and bingo all working just fine, like it did on Win XP.Thanks and happy flyingRichard

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So how many monitors are you able to use now? Wondering about using photo frames as monitors for FSX, MFD units? Any sugestions? thanx=;)Kory

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Hi guys,I can see lots of probs with USB to DVI adapters and Win7. Let me tell you, after I thought all was fixed with updating the Display Link with the newest (Win7) driver, it happened again. Undocked windows turn black and inactive.Gues what, after snooping around for hours and days, I cam up on something to try out. When I startup FSX a window pops up saying something like Windows has changed the desktop to basic Mode as a program can not run in Win7 Aero mode.The solution, go into control panel, hardware trouble shooter and Win 7 automaticly repairs the problem and changed the destop back to win7 aero and all adapters run ok with undocked windows.All I like to find out now is how FSX will run on startup in Aero mode, because it takes a few steps to adjust all these things b4 all extra monitors can be used with FSX . I am using Two monitors directly connected to the PC and 2 other via a USB to DVI adapter. As I said it is a bit messy before you can start flying, but at least I can use all 4 monitors just fine.Any ideas of how to fool FSX to startup in Win7 Aero mode are muchly appreciated. Also this might at least help out some problems you guys experience(hopefully)Happy 2012 and happy flying.CheersRichard

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