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Problem with keyboard assignments

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I am using FS2crew voice commander edition for PMDG 737NG in FS9. System = windows xp professional, version 2002, sp3.I can just not seem to get my keyboard assignments right, and I suspect it has to do with having (or having had) the PMDG 747-400 package installed, too.Upon install of FS2Crew, the PMDG 737NG assignments are incorrect ==> the package doesn't perform correctly.I have tried (many times now) to change the key assignments manually in the PMDG menu in FS9. Some don't even stick during the flight. Most revert to wrong upon restarting FS9.I have also tried (many times now) to copy the 737kbd.ini file from the FSCrew directory over the 737kbd.ini file in the PMDG directory, to no avail. I've even tried to delete the PMDG 737kbd.ini file and only then copying the FS2Crew one in there, no luck either.Then I have removed the PMDG 747-400 entirely from my computer, using the add/remove tool in the control panel, as per PMDG instructions. That didn't help, so I tried repeating changing the key assignments manually, then copying the FS2Crew 737kbd.ini file to replace the PMDG 737 kbd.ini file. ===> guess what? still no luck.Last step, locating any remaining PMDG 747-400 files in the FS9 directory I could find, and deleting them manually ===> nothing helps.I don't know what to do try next. Can you please help?Jan Swinnen

Edited by vpa248

  • Commercial Member

Hi Jan,If the required PMDG 737 keyboard assignment match those listed in the FS2Crew manual, it should work.Can you make the same keypress by hand to trigger the command?Perhaps something is intercepting the keypress? Like another window being in focus.Cheers,

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The problem is that something keeps overriding the correct keyboard assignments. I have copied your 737kbd.ini file (10/12/2009 8:46) into my C:Program FilesMicrosoft GamesFlight Simulator 9PMDG directory. It sits there unaltered and unedited. As a result, I would expect that when I start up FS9, the correct keyboard assignments should be loaded.Only, when I verify which keyboard assignments have actually been loaded (by checking in the PMDG - General - Keyboard commands drop down menu, I find that different keyboard assignments are listed there.So, despite the correct 737kdb.ini file having been placed in my C:Program FilesMicrosoft GamesFlight Simulator 9PMDG directory, another set of keyboard assigments is being loaded in my FS9.I cannot but conclude that there must be another file, somewhere, which contains those keyboard assignments, and that it conflicts with and overrides the assignments from your 737kbd.ini file.My suspect remains the PMDG 747-400, because, even though I have uninstalled that package via the add/remove program feature of my control panel, and even though I have manually removed any other traces of that package which I was able to find, the window with the list of keyboard commands which opens via the PMDG - General - Keyboard commands drop down menu in FS9, is still entitled "PMDG 737NG / 747-400 - Keyboard Assignment".Here is a list of the keyboard assignments which I find in FS9, whilst having your original and unedited 737kbd.ini file in my C:Program FilesMicrosoft GamesFlight Simulator 9PMDG directory:PMDG 737NG / 747-400 - Keyboard AssignmentNum Command Key Combination3 MCP Press APDISCON Ctrl+Shft+D4 MCP Press AT Ctrl+Shft+B5 MCP Press N1 Ctrl+Shft+G6 MCP Press SPD Ctrl+Shft+H7 MCP Press CO8 MCP Press LVLCHG Ctrl+Shft+I9 MCP Press VNAV Ctrl+Shft+J10 MCP Press LNAV Ctrl+Shft+M11 MCP Press VORLOC Ctrl+Shft+N12 MCP Press APP Ctrl+Shft+O13 MCP Press HDGSEL Ctrl+H14 MCP Press HDGHLD Ctrl+Shft+P15 MCP Press ALTHLD Ctrl+P16 MCP Press VS24 MCP Press CMD L Tab +A25 MCP Press CMD C26 MCP Press CMD R27 MCP Press CWS L Ctrl+Shft+F28 MCP Press CWS R29 MCP Press FD L30 MCP Press FD R33 MCP Increase Bank Limiter Ctrl+Shft+K34 MCP Decrease Bank Limiter Ctrl+K35 MCP Increase Course Ctrl+I36 MCP Decrease Course Ctrl+U37 MCP Increase Altitude Ctrl+TPage 1 of 5 03/07/12 07:52:46PMDG 737NG / 747-400 - Keyboard AssignmentNum Command Key Combination37 MCP Increase Altitude Ctrl+T38 MCP Decrease Altitude Ctrl+Y39 MCP Increase Speed Shft+H40 MCP Decrease Speed Ctrl+Shft+X41 MCP Increase Heading Ctrl+Shft+W42 MCP Decrease Heading Ctrl+Shft+R43 MCP Increase VS44 MCP Decrease VS45 MCP Increase Course Fast46 MCP Decrease Course Fast47 MCP Increase Altitude Fast48 MCP Decrease Altitude Fast49 MCP Increase Speed Fast50 MCP Decrease Speed Fast51 MCP Increase Hdg Fast52 MCP Decrease Hdg Fast53 MCP Increase VS Fast Ctrl+D54 MCP Decrease VS Fast Ctrl+Tab +G55 MCP Set TOGA Shft+Tab +M56 MCP Abort TO / Discon AT Shft+U57 MCP Press SPD INTV Ctrl+Tab +M58 MCP Press ALT INTV59 EFIS Press Mins60 EFIS Increase Mins Shft+Tab +B61 EFIS Decrease Mins63 EFIS Reset MinsPage 2 of 5 03/07/12 07:52:46PMDG 737NG / 747-400 - Keyboard AssignmentNum Command Key Combination63 EFIS Reset Mins64 EFIS Press Baro Ctrl+Shft+Tab +B65 EFIS Increase Baro Ctrl+Shft+Tab +V66 EFIS Decrease Baro Ctrl+Shft+Tab +R68 EFIS Press Baro STD Ctrl+Tab +&69 EFIS Press FPV70 EFIS Press MTRS Ctrl+Shft+é71 EFIS Increase NavL Ctrl+Tab +é72 EFIS Decrease NavL74 EFIS Increase NavR Shft+Tab +F1275 EFIS Decrease NavR77 EFIS Increase ND Mode Ctrl+Shft+F1178 EFIS Decrease ND Mode Shft+Tab +F1180 EFIS Press ND Mode CTR Ctrl+Shft+Tab +F1181 EFIS Increase ND Range Shft+Tab +F182 EFIS Decrease ND Range Shft+Tab +F284 EFIS Press ND Range TFC Shft+Tab +F485 EFIS Press WXR Shft+Tab +F586 EFIS Press STA Shft+Tab +F687 EFIS Press WPT Shft+Tab +F788 EFIS Press ARPT Ctrl+Shft+Tab +&89 EFIS Press DATA Ctrl+Shft+Tab +é90 EFIS Press POS Ctrl+Shft+Tab +"91 EFIS Press TERR Ctrl+Shft+Tab +'92 Panel Switcher - Show Ctrl+Shft+Tab +(93 Panel Switcher - Main Ctrl+Shft+Tab +§Page 3 of 5 03/07/12 07:52:46PMDG 737NG / 747-400 - Keyboard AssignmentNum Command Key Combination93 Panel Switcher - Main Ctrl+Shft+Tab +§94 Panel Switcher - Zoom Ctrl+Shft+Tab +è95 Panel Switcher - Appr Ctrl+Shft+Tab +!96 Panel Switcher - Lndg Ctrl+Shft+Tab +ç97 Panel Switcher - FMC98 Panel Switcher - Ovhd99 Panel Switcher - Thr Ctrl+Shft+Y100 Panel Switcher - EICAS Ctrl+Shft+V101 Panel Switcher - Rdio102 Panel Switcher - Chrno103 Panel Switcher - Misc104 Autobrakes Increase Pos105 Autobrakes Decrease Pos107 Doors - Open Front Pax108 Doors - Open Other109 Pushback - Backwards110 Pushback - Left111 Pushback - Right112 Toggle VC Yoke113 Toggle Dome Light114 CDU - INIT REF115 CDU - RTE116 CDU - CLB117 CDU - CRZ118 CDU - DES119 CDU - MENUPage 4 of 5 03/07/12 07:52:46PMDG 737NG / 747-400 - Keyboard AssignmentNum Command Key Combination119 CDU - MENU120 CDU - LEGS121 CDU - DEP ARR122 CDU - HOLD123 CDU - PROG124 CDU - N1 LIMIT125 CDU - FIX126 CDU - PREV PAGE127 CDU - NEXT PAGE128 CDU - EXEC129 CDU - KBD LEFTPage 5 of 5 03/07/12 07:52:46The only ones I can change via the FS9 PMDG drop down menu, are the ones which are unassigned in this list, such as 29 MCP Press FD L. All the others revert to their initial value either immediately after having changed them, or at the latest upon rebooting FS9.Jan Swinnen

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Hi Jan,I have no idea why your keyboard assignments reverting to their initial value.You might want to ask PMDG Support.Long shot: Maybe the PMDG Keyboard.INI files are write protected by chance... but how would they get write protected unless you manually write protected the file?Long shot: Ensure UAC is disabled and run everything as an Admin. Cheers,

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Bryan,I have uninstalled and reinstalled both FS2Crew and the whole PMDG 737NG micmac. Now the FS2Crew key assignments stick. Problem solved (this one, because i'm sensing there may be other issues to come back to -- we'll see).

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