New MENUS.DLL Error

[Mike_CFII_MEL 789]

Hi,I'm trying to run a flight from KJFK to KFLL (PMDG 737-800) via the following route: (KJFK WAVEY EMJAY J174 WARNN J174 SWL CEBEE WETRO ILM AR21 CRANS FATHR TOOMR JALOP MOSIE FISEL KFLL).After approaching/passing AR21, P3D crashes with the following menus.dll error message:APPCRASHPREPAR3D1.2.3253.04e792a40MENUS.DLL0.0.0.04e792db1c0000005000024796.1.7601.2.1.0.256.481033This is 100% repeatable, any ideas on how to find/correct the problem?. I also left a message on P3D's online forum.Thanks

[Iceman2 110]

Hi Mike,You are not alone I'm getting a similar thing after installing the new PMDG update. Sometimes the reason for the CTD is different but mostly menus. I'm wondering if its the update?IM2

[FSMP 95]

• P3D changed the Menu system,(because of a bug in the original Microsoft Menu library, when it was used with Windows 7) from that of FSX, and it has created a number of differences and issues, that, (to me). have not yet all been fully resolved.

Since PMDG has made it well known hat they are so smart, that they can program their planes OUTSIDE of the FSX SDK Box, it is hardly surprising, that some features in PMDG planes may stop working in anything but standard FSX. (ie break in P3D, as P3D evolves).Maybe from a Business point of view, PMDG would consider that a FEATURE, as it would tend to stop the Commercial use of the CONSUMER LICESNSED 737NGX, in the P3D environment.Also, from what I have read, it would seem that PMDG does not support their Products in the P3D environment, and may even be coding their 737NGX to intentionally not function in P3D.Who knows, except maybe PMDG .. Try asking them ... Good Luck.

[Iceman2 110]

You're on the money there FSMP well said.I'm a little disappointed PMDG went down that road, maybe in the future they will smoke the pipe together. So far this is a tragedy for both sides and us as the victims.IM2

[FSMP 95]

You're on the money there FSMP well said.I'm a little disappointed PMDG went down that road, maybe in the future they will smoke the pipe together. So far this is a tragedy for both sides and us as the victims.IM2

I am not sure that the pipe smoking part is a good idea .. You know where the smoke will be blown !! :(