My FS 2004 install has been rock solid ever since I installed it just after release. All of a sudden a year later I'm getting out of memory error every time I try to load up. this is getting frustrating. I've re installed twice, deleted all my add on sceneries and still I get the out of memory and I should run disk clean up. I don't know why it thinks I don't have enough memory since I have over 11 gig free on the C drive. Also when I alt tab to the error message and then close it I get a facilities error in FS and it then closes out. The only thing I can think of that is new since this started making problems is Justin's new USA land class scenery. the old one worked fine. I'll try deleting that and give it a try. Brian

these are the messages I get when I try to load up FS. I can load the default flight at Seattle ok but when i try to turn up the mesh to the usual 100% I used to run it get the out of memory message as soon as it hits the "loading terrain" message as FS loads.Brianhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/71209.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/71210.jpg

Brian,Right click your Internet Explorer, or Browser and select properties. For IE, General tab, press Delete Files, enable the checkbox to delete all offline content, select OK. If you don't have any cookies that you want to keep, press Delete Cookies (if you use GMAX, you might want to save that cookie). If you have special cookies you want to keep, press Settings, press View Files, and delete all the cookies you don't want, OK. Return to Setting page, press View Objects and review the installed objects especially Unknowns. If you are unsure, use virus or adaware checker to remove. Otherwise, remove any that you don't recognize. Return to Internet Options page and press Clear History. Exit.Open MyComputer, right click the hardrive that contains Windows, select properties, select Disk Cleanup, let it stabilize, make sure the areas are enabled for removal, press OK, Yes.Select the Disk Cleanup a second time, select More Options tab, and review if you want to do more or not.If all that doesn't do anything, try renaming FS9.CFG to FS9.OLD, restart FS2004 and see if the problem is corrected. If so, something in the old FS9.CFG is a problem.W. Sieffert

I went in and deleted about 8 gig of old zip files and then defraged things. I then did a new install of 2004 and so far things are running ok.... Keep your fingers crossedBrian

This is starting to sound like a broken record around here:I've recently had the same experience...am still having actually.I had been fiddling with my install, like I usually do. I had installed the starstorm 56.72X drivers, then the new toronto scenery from Flight Ontario. I thought there were more stutters than usual. All of a sudden, after a year of flawless performance, same virtual memory error as you describe. Reboot, fly out of toronto this time, crash with no vm left. I read in anouther thread about the water class problem with the texture folder, so I rebooted the PC to correct that problem and see if it was fixed. I get a "windows has recovered from a serious error - your disk may have errors - run chkdsk now?" thingy (in paraphrase). I click yes. After a bit, Chkdsk found errors and fixed them all. Reboot. XP starts, quick flash of a blue screen, reboot, XP starts, quick flash of a blue screen, reboot...ad infinitum. Apparently chkdsk didn't "fix" but removed....and it was important. Drop the dell system disk in - took a while to find, PC is well over a year old, never had to use it. Setup windows, repair installation, seems to go okay, but still stuck in that same old loop. Reinstalled OS, now it thinks i've got a dual boot system. One copy of the OS works, but I need to reinstall EVERYTHING. First thing I put on - norton AV, dialed in to get the updates - BANG: W32.Welchia worm. Not saying that this is causing anyones issues including mine, but it can't hurt to fire up the Symantec removal tool. I'm going to reformat. Strangely coincidental that I'm not the only one who suddenly is having FS issues...Hope your's turns out better - I'd hate to see you lose all of that unreleased vermont scenery ;) (i'm in New Hampshire)...Best,sg

FS loads the first time after a reinstal.... After that Poof!!! out of memory. (I'm still running Win 98SE) I'm about to take a hammer to this dang thing. I've got 3 payware projects and a bunch of freeware stuff to do and I can't do em' or anything else with FS. All I can do at the momment I think is backup all my gauge folder and aircraft folder on my second hard drive and then wipe anything to do with FS from C and reinstall again and then just put in addons one at a time. this is incredibly frustrating!!!!!!!!

To avoid the memory leak, the rule is no 'texture' folders in combination with a 'scenery' folder that contains landclass, right? Have you got some landclass in the wrong place, or a 'texture' folder somewhere it shouldn't be? Basic, but just some ideas.

Nope, thats not it.... I have no 3rd party land class installed at the moment and still no joy. Brian

I had this happen to me only once, and it was after installing third-party scenery. I traced it to the building of the scenery.dat file, and by sorting all my scenery.dat files in my FS9 subfolders in date order, I found the scenery.dat file most recently updated (and thus the folder) where the offending bgl was installed.I have 98SE and have never had a problem with FS9--and I get some pretty incredible performance considering the stretch it is to throw an old system at it. If the scenery.dat suggestion doesn't point you to the problem, then the best way to isolate the problem is to move all add-on scenery folders somewhere else outside of the FS9 folder structure, so that they are "hidden" from FS9. Then move them back in one at a time until you find the cause.Also, keep in mind even traffic.bgl can cause this issue (or so users have said). Any mods to it may cause an issue. Last, make sure your cache folder is empty. If it isn't, then some scenery managed to get cached there (which shouldn't happen on a full install). Some 3rd party scenery wizards enable the cache anyway, and a bad bgl there can force the same error.Everything I've said applies to when this error is seen on startup.... There's other OOM errors such as the one mentioned with landclass, but those are usually caused during a sim session.-John

well I'm up and running after a fashion. I have Been installing things one at a time. Next step is adding my ai traffic back. All my PAI stuff will be a new install and I think I can run my custom stuff (seperate traffic bgls) as is. I've got my scenery enhancer up and running again. this is going to be a slow process but so far it's working.Brian

The worm thing happened because of the new install of the OS...There is a known weakness in XP that this worm takes advantage of to install itself. And currently you will get it almost instantly upon connection to the Internet. This happens with unpatched versions of the OS, IE newly installed. It happened to me last week when I reinstalled XP. You have to patch XP and then use your virus scanner to remove it. And it would not be what was causing your problems with FS. In actuality that worm is designed to be beneficial in that it searches for a couple of other worms that have been problems and tries to delete them. Its still a worm though and should be removed. And the OS needs to be patched with all the current updates.

Thanks for that tip - vilk told me the same thing. I downloaded the worm patch from MS and burned it on a cd from my work PC. Re-formatted, re-installed the os, then sp1 and the worm patch immediately - seems to be up and running. Now I have the list of apps to install before I can find the time to get FS back on there...She'll be clean though! I plan on tooling around with 'vanilla' fs for a bit before I get my favorites on there (meridian, pmdg's, etc.).Best,sg

Xp stuff doesn't help me much since I'm still in the dark ages of Win 98 SE :-lolBrian