Prague Ruzyne Airport

[VaclavLoubek 4]

No way to remove them then? Thery look really naff!

 

Not a cTD, only a "building crash" with an invisible building maybe a thousand feet tall or more. And not over the city, more over the hills near on the airport side of the river -- somewhere close to the castle I'd guess (I've been to the brewpub behind the monastery further up than the castle

 

Ad trees: Maybe a bgl file, but I really don't know...:-(

 

Ad building crash: They should have been all removed, but apparently weren't. I fly with crashes disabled. But there's for at their website where you can tell them about bugs...

 

I have a different problem which maybe you could help me with. I get wrong vectors by Radar Contact when approaching LKPR and RC window shows wrong runway heading, for example 282° for RWY 30, which should be 304°. Any idea what's wrong? Other airports work well with RC, and the author of LKPR says it's not a probelm within AFCAD...

 

When you're at Prague, just send me a private message, we can have a beer together, I live there and know some good places...:D The real deal, not those tourist places...:D

[Pete Dowson 558]

I have a different problem which maybe you could help me with. I get wrong vectors by Radar Contact when approaching LKPR and RC window shows wrong runway heading, for example 282° for RWY 30, which should be 304°. Any idea what's wrong? Other airports work well with RC, and the author of LKPR says it's not a probelm within AFCAD...

 

The runway entries from FSX's default AFD BGL are:

 

Runway 13 /31 centre: N50:05:57.2519 E014:15:48.6701 1247ft

Start 13 : N50:06:27.7997 E014:14:45.4701 1247ft Hdg: 126.9T, Length 10642ft

Computed start 13 : Lat 50.108009 Long 14.245336

Start 31 : N50:05:26.7040 E014:16:51.8699 1247ft Hdg: 307.0T, Length 10642ft

Computed start 31 : Lat 50.090462 Long 14.281703

Hdg: 126.950 true (MagVar 2.000), Concrete, 10642 x 148 ft

Secondary ILS ID = PG

Secondary ILS: PG 109.50 Hdg: 307.0 , Flags: GS DME BC "ILS/DME 31"

*** Runway *** LKPR0130 Lat 50.108009 Long 14.245336 Alt 1247 Hdg 125 Len 10642 Wid 148

*** Runway *** LKPR0310 Lat 50.090462 Long 14.281703 Alt 1247 Hdg 305 Len 10642 Wid 148 ILS 109.50, Flags: GS DME BC

Runway 6 /24 centre: N50:06:32.0110 E014:14:59.3988 1247ft

Start 6 : N50:06:07.4237 E014:13:37.4584 1247ft Hdg: 65.0T, Length 12166ft

Computed start 6 : Lat 50.101833 Long 14.226257

Start 24 : N50:06:56.5659 E014:16:21.3411 1247ft Hdg: 245.0T, Length 12166ft

Computed start 24 : Lat 50.115948 Long 14.273409

Hdg: 64.980 true (MagVar 2.000), Concrete, 12166 x 148 ft

Primary ILS ID = PH

Primary ILS: PH 111.15 Hdg: 65.0 , Flags: GS DME BC "ILS/DME 06"

Secondary ILS ID = PR

Secondary ILS: PR 109.10 Hdg: 245.0 , Flags: GS DME BC "CAT III ILS/DME 24"

*** Runway *** LKPR0060 Lat 50.101833 Long 14.226257 Alt 1247 Hdg 63 Len 12166 Wid 148 ILS 111.15, Flags: GS DME BC

*** Runway *** LKPR0240 Lat 50.115948 Long 14.273409 Alt 1247 Hdg 243 Len 12166 Wid 148 ILS 109.10, Flags: GS DME BC

Runway 4 /22 centre: N50:05:43.1279 E014:16:32.0302 1247ft

Start 4 : N50:05:16.6618 E014:16:01.1070 1247ft Hdg: 36.9T, Length 6931ft

Computed start 4 : Lat 50.087711 Long 14.266667

Start 22 : N50:06:09.5941 E014:17:02.9516 1247ft Hdg: 216.9T, Length 6931ft

Computed start 22 : Lat 50.102917 Long 14.284461

Hdg: 36.900 true (MagVar 2.000), Asphalt, 6931 x 197 ft

*** Runway *** LKPR0040 Lat 50.087711 Long 14.266667 Alt 1247 Hdg 35 Len 6931 Wid 197

*** Runway *** LKPR0220 Lat 50.102917 Long 14.284461 Alt 1247 Hdg 215 Len 6931 Wid 197

Runway 6L/24R centre: N50:06:32.5941 E014:14:41.8250 1247ft

Runway 6L closed for landing and take-off

Runway 24R closed for landing and take-off

Hdg: 64.861 true (MagVar 2.000), Grass, 6562 x 328 ft

Primary ILS ERROR! There is an ILS, but the Runway record does not ID this!!

Primary ILS: PH 111.15 Hdg: 65.0 , Flags: GS DME BC "ILS/DME 06"

Secondary ILS ERROR! There is an ILS, but the Runway record does not ID this!!

Secondary ILS: PR 109.10 Hdg: 245.0 , Flags: GS DME BC "CAT III ILS/DME 24"

*** There were ILS matching errors. Here's a list of ILSs:

ID=PG: Freq 109.50 Heading 307.0 (Secondary), Range 0.17, "ILS/DME 31"

ID=PH: Freq 111.15 Heading 65.0 (Primary), Range 1.38, "ILS/DME 06"

ID=PR: Freq 109.10 Heading 245.0 (Secondary), Range 1.06, "CAT III ILS/DME 24"

Runway 13R/31L centre: N50:05:56.2153 E014:15:40.4704 1247ft

Runway 13R closed for landing and take-off

Runway 31L closed for landing and take-off

Hdg: 126.829 true (MagVar 2.000), Grass, 4100 x 328 ft

Secondary ILS ERROR! There is an ILS, but the Runway record does not ID this!!

Secondary ILS: PG 109.50 Hdg: 307.0 , Flags: GS DME BC "ILS/DME 31"

*** There were ILS matching errors. Here's a list of ILSs:

ID=PG: Freq 109.50 Heading 307.0 (Secondary), Range 1.03, "ILS/DME 31"

ID=PH: Freq 111.15 Heading 65.0 (Primary), Range 1.29, "ILS/DME 06"

ID=PR: Freq 109.10 Heading 245.0 (Secondary), Range 1.54, "CAT III ILS/DME 24"

 

which would make 30's heading 305 Mag.

 

The AFD in this freeware Prague (filename "Updater_lkpr_afd_06_short_D.bgl" !!) gives:

 

Runway 12 /30 centre: N50:05:57.4138 E014:15:47.6771 1247ft

Start 12 : N50:06:29.4194 E014:15:00.7766 1247ft Hdg: 276.9T, Length 10642ft

Computed start 12 : Lat 50.108055 Long 14.245060

Start 30 : N50:05:29.8139 E014:16:57.1806 1247ft Hdg: 203.3T, Length 10642ft

Computed start 30 : Lat 50.090508 Long 14.281427

Hdg: 126.950 true (MagVar 25.000), Asphalt, 10642 x 148 ft

Primary ILS ID = PA

Primary ILS: PA 109.95 Hdg: 126.9 , Flags: GS DME "ILS/DME 13"

Secondary ILS ID = PG

Secondary ILS: PG 109.50 Hdg: 307.0 , Flags: GS DME BC "ILS/DME 31"

*** Runway *** LKPR0120 Lat 50.108055 Long 14.245060 Alt 1247 Hdg 102 Len 10642 Wid 148 ILS 109.95, Flags: GS DME

*** Runway *** LKPR0300 Lat 50.090508 Long 14.281427 Alt 1247 Hdg 282 Len 10642 Wid 148 ILS 109.50, Flags: GS DME BC

Runway 6 /24 centre: N50:06:40.3363 E014:15:26.5918 1247ft

Start 6 : N50:06:03.1476 E014:13:38.1217 1247ft Hdg: 334.7T, Length 8202ft

Computed start 6 : Lat 50.106449 Long 14.241491

Start 24 : N50:06:53.7152 E014:16:25.3579 1247ft Hdg: 328.6T, Length 8202ft

Computed start 24 : Lat 50.115963 Long 14.273281

Hdg: 64.980 true (MagVar 25.000), Asphalt, 8202 x 148 ft

Primary ILS ID = PH

Primary ILS: PH 111.15 Hdg: 65.0 , Flags: GS DME BC "ILS/DME 6"

Secondary ILS ID = PR

Secondary ILS: PR 109.10 Hdg: 245.0 , Flags: GS DME BC "CAT III ILS/DME 24"

*** Runway *** LKPR0060 Lat 50.106449 Long 14.241491 Alt 1247 Hdg 40 Len 8202 Wid 148 ILS 111.15, Flags: GS DME BC

*** Runway *** LKPR0240 Lat 50.115963 Long 14.273281 Alt 1247 Hdg 220 Len 8202 Wid 148 ILS 109.10, Flags: GS DME BC

Runway 4 /22 centre: N50:05:46.1082 E014:16:34.8353 1247ft

Runway 4 closed for landing and take-off

Runway 22 closed for landing and take-off

Hdg: 37.200 true (MagVar 25.000), Asphalt, 7521 x 197 ft

 

So the True heading is okay (307), but he's got a bad error with a ridiculous Mag Var of 25 degrees! This is why you get 282!

 

This smacks of a simple careless mistake with a decimal point. Probably should be 2.5.

 

Furthermore, according to the latest charts from Navigraph (for LKPR they are November 2010) the MagVar is now 3 E, and the runway names are changed: no 30! That's now 13/31.

 

When you're at Prague, just send me a private message, we can have a beer together, I live there and know some good places...:D The real deal, not those tourist places...:D

 

Thanks, but there's a party of 8 of us, at least, all keen on brew pubs. We have a list to visit. Previously I've been to Pivovasky Dum (and Klub), U Medvidtu, U Dvou Kocek, and Klášterní pivovar Strahov

(monastery). We have some others recommended and a list form the Internet. What would you recommend, looking for both good beer and good food?

 

Regards

Pete

[Tomaz Drnovsek 440]

U Medvidtu

 

You probably mean "U Medvidku" .. they make their own beer and have one of the strongest beer you can get (in the world.. they say).

Sorry, couldn't resist.. back to the topic..

[Pete Dowson 558]

You probably mean "U Medvidku" .. they make their own beer and have one of the strongest beer you can get (in the world.. they say).

 

Typo. And yes, but I prefer weaker beer -- I like to be able to drink more! The U Dvou Kocek (The Two Cats) is nearby and has delicious dark beer made on the premises too. All the places we've visited before make their own beer, excepting Pivovarsky Klub which has beer from its sister Pivovarsky Dum.

 

Sorry, couldn't resist.. back to the topic..

 

I looked for ways to correct the bad MagVar in the Prague AFD BGL, but none of my compilers like it. i don't know what it was built with, but neither the FS9 nor FSX tools like it.. :-(

 

Cheers

Pete

[VaclavLoubek 4]

What would you recommend, looking for both good beer and good food?

 

Definitely U Pravdu! Great selection of superb beers at right temperature, and best ribs in Prague! http://goo.gl/maps/f4UZ

Not one of those touristic places, but real Prague pub.

 

Anyway, thanks for your help with LKPR afcad!

[daan_vb 37]

Does anyone know if this is still being worked on or is going to be updated again for the above problems? There have been no updates since 28th May...

[nosalis 0]

yeah.. it is great .. but as many of the free addons .. the problem is compatibility with FSX and DX10 .. as it was build for FS2009

 

have tried it, and was checking out if I could customize it by removing some stuff I don't want .. like the orthomap for prague .. since I have the UTX and GEX which is good enough

 

it's a big FPS eater though .. since the lines are casting shadows .. but I guess that's similar issue with payed addons, ? .. haven't bough any yet so can't compare

 

it's reallly great .. but I'm not sure if the advantages level out the disadvantages :(