i want to fly UTNT but a controller said to me that airport not Identified.

So i flied a lot of time unidentified airports or places around the world. perhaps the controller the controller may send me unicom at that place but he didn t .

I see, some controller are not so friendly. it is not good guys. everyone can fly to UTNT. what is wrong i don t know

Hej DDK,

 

sorry but just dont understand your question right now. Could you explain it a little bit better to me, please.

What do you mean with "identified" ?

Did´nt the Controller (which give you the clearance) know the ICAO Code UTNT ? Or what do you mean.

 

If it is so, who cares? A Controller cant know every Code.

Or did he mean uncontrolled, and you missunderstood the whole think. Please give us a better overview.

 

KR Arvid

easy, i want to fly UTNT airport. at vatsim. but controller did not send me there.

People sometimes to want to fly somewhere where there are lakes, land, or wanna use helicopter or something as a glider. then controller give permissin you with on frequency via pilot discrestion to there. or hand off the pilot to unicom if available.

so There must be a way to go UTNT airport or takeoff from UTNT on Vatsim.

what i want to say this

Hello, but how can a Controller sent you to an airport??? if the Airport is controlled he had to give you clearences, if uncontrolled he can give you landing INFORMATiONS.

So that is his job. If he is not able to do so disregard him and fly wherever you want. Or start where ever you want. I dont see there any kind of Problem.

I think you're not understanding the role air traffic control plays. Controllers don't navigate you to your destination. You file a flight plan and try clear you on it and give assistance. Just fly VFR and not worry about it.

this is good, i accept to go VFR. But i must say controller have to helpful for the pilots. pilots sometimes want to fly lake, sea, field or newest airport or oldest airport and sometimes those unknown places are not ava'lable at the scope. p'lot can not know. so the controller can direct us to there via visual or IFR or other ways.

The point is; If we can go (IFR or VFR no matter) UTNT airport, then this is good idea.

If we can not go UTNT airport (or another airport or place) when online this is bad idea for Vatsim

I think you should contact the FIR for wherever UTNT airport is. Perhaps they can give you a better explanation than we can.

 

You can go anywhere you want on VATSIM, but you can't expect controllers to fly you there, albeit I would expect controllers to know where most airports are in their airspace. Is UTNT a new airport?

 

I can tell you as a controller for almost 8 years we cannot get you somewhere that doesn't have a navaid associated with it. If a pilot called me up and asked for a heading to a lake/town I have absolutely no way to do that if there isn't a VOR or other navaid associated with it. We also don't have small or private strips depicted on our scopes.

 

The responsibility still lies with the pilot to know where they are going. ATC can provide assistance, but only within their abilities.

okay i understand you are right, but i know a controller able their areas if necessery, says pilots go your destination pilot distrection wthin the radio frequency.

The situation is, i can not talk this at Vatsim, beacuse Vatsim has so close forum rules.

There are a lot of rules at Vatsim. This is good. but, i believe pilots are able to go UTNT airport and an controler able to scope that area, at least give the pilots approachment then mayme hand off them to unicom

Okay the question is; Can i fly to UTNT airport at IIVAO or other online traffics?

i hope that helpful controllers when online

You can fly anywhere on VATSIM. Who is telling you "no"?

Hi,

its hard to follow you because its hard to understand. But once again, in every Online Network you can fly everywhere. An Controller cant denied your flightplan.

IF an airport is uncontrolled then the Controller may give you Informations. If you flying IFR he has to guide guide you until you reached the boarder of his area.

But you are still responsible for your routeplanning by your self. That is not the task of the controller.

So now i wish you to enjoy the Online Network