Hey all,

 

I have the CH Products throttle quad that has detents for reverse thrust.While I got the reverse thrust working well and consistently with the PMDG 744X, struggling to achieve the same on the NGX. Best I can do is get a very slight rev, not a full reverse - as if the lever has not been pulled all the way back. For the forward power range, throttles work perfectly.

 

I am using FSUIPC to handle this. I have read elsewhere that PMDG does not encourage FSUIPC with NGX, but what other option do I have to get rev thrust then?

 

I have tried repeatedly with calibrations on the axis but rev remains a hit and miss. Has anyone got this working reliably and consistently? - if so, please let me know how to get this working.

 

Thanks

HI Greg,

 

I also have a CH TQ. The axes that I assigned to thrust levers, spoilers and flaps are not controlled by FSUIPC but by FSX itself. I operate the thrust reversers with the TQ as follows :

1) In the appropriate CH Control Manager software map, using some CMS script, I created a CMS button (in this case : CH Control Manager Device 2, button 25) that is set as long as both thrust levers are fully forward into their forward detents (i.e. both the TQ "virtual buttons" associated with the forward detents are set).

2) This CMS button in FSX sets and continuously repeats the "Throttle (decrease quickly)" control; you assign it in the FSX control settings as follows :

 

 

 

Pull both thrust levers completely towards me, right into the forward detents, and full reverse thrust is applied ! I can't control the degree of reverse thrust this way, but to me that doesn't matter. I also created another button (no. 26 on the same device) that is activated once both thrust levers are back in their first detent and issues the "Throttle (cut)" control once - sets both engines back in idle.

 

Hope this helps.

Thanks Emile,

 

Sounds logical, I will give it a try. I have not been using the Control Manager software at all so the "CMS script" part sounds a little daunting... Definitely going to try assigning spoilers and flaps also. For these did you also use CH Control Manager and CMS scripts or was this simpler to set up in FSX?

 

Really appreciate your help and the screenshot!

 

Thanks Emile,

 

Sounds logical, I will give it a try. I have not been using the Control Manager software at all so the "CMS script" part sounds a little daunting... Definitely going to try assigning spoilers and flaps also. For these did you also use CH Control Manager and CMS scripts or was this simpler to set up in FSX?

 

Really appreciate your help and the screenshot!

Hi Greg,

 

Yes the CH Control Manager software is a bit of a learning curve especially the CMS script. It'll take a bit of studying, but the help file is pretty good (I just printed the whole thing off early on). CH Products also run a most helpful support forum where they are happy to answer questions about CMS scripting amongst other aspects. The link to it, is http://www.ch-hangar...forum/forum.php (hope the PMDG folk don't mind me putting that here).

 

On my CH TQ, I set up flaps, spoilers ands thrust levers in FSX itself rather than through FSUIPC. It's simple to do. The CH TQ levers are calibrated through the Control Manager software (again, not through FSUIPC). The only TQ function that I did use FSUIPC for, is assigning one lever as nosewheel steering tiller for my NGX.

I also have this problem, are there any downsides to this? It seems the big one I can tell is you either get a full reverse or none, since it is now assigned to a button rather than a joystick axis.

If you are using FCUIPC then check out this pdf guide Joystick Setup Guide

I also have this problem, are there any downsides to this? It seems the big one I can tell is you either get a full reverse or none, since it is now assigned to a button rather than a joystick axis.

Sure it's not perfect, but at least it works. And in my first post in this thread I clearly stated that "I can't control the degree of reverse thrust this way, but to me that doesn't matter." If to you (or anyone else) that IS too big a downside, then feel free to not use this method .

 

I had a look at the document that David kindly provided the link to. It does show how to set up reverse thrust on a CH TQ lever using FSUIPC. The resulting lever movement range available to set reverse thrust is very small, which would limit how accurately one could control the degree of reverse thrust applied that way. However, it may be the solution you need. Try it out and see !

Thanks all,

 

I got sorted with a set up that works well for me, including assigning spoilers and flaps also. 9 flap detents was a challenge - but more for getting accurate markings on the paper I attached to the TQ showing each setting position. For reverse I dont mind zero or max, can always still keep a button assigned (as I have done) to "F2".

 

Thanks again to all for the help !!!