August 20, 201213 yr Bimmercop, Hardly. You wanna tell me you can get leveld sim for 400 bucks? Cuz that is what pfc is, 6x the price of saitek. More or less. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
August 20, 201213 yr Commercial Member Bimmercop, Hardly. You wanna tell me you can get leveld sim for 400 bucks? Cuz that is what pfc is, 6x the price of saitek. More or less. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Obviously, it was an analogy, not an apples to apples comparison. Everyone knows a Level-D sim does not cost $400, but still doesn't change the fact that it's a pretty lame advice to simply tell someone to discard a piece of hardware for a more expensive one. Not everyone can go ahead and purchase a $400 yoke. Regards, Efrain RuizLiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️
August 20, 201213 yr Saitek yokes are not heavy duty and not really designed to be used for 1000's of hours in a short period of time while its still early days for the Saitek Cessna yoke but one person has already reported it sticks and they have to service it now and then which is the only negative for that yoke as far as i know. The pro flight yoke for many people has multiple issues that it should never have, while some people have been lucky others have not. Not all Saitek hardware is poor quality and some of it is very very good stuff. We all must look at the amount of time we sim and decide do we need a heavy duty yoke or a light use yoke, if you only sim a couple of hours a week or month then the CH or Saitek yokes are fine and it could be years before you might have an issue.. if you sim 30+ hours a week then its best to invest in something better as both yokes have moving parts and they do wear out but the heavy duty yokes should last longer if your hours you sim are a lot. This is the mistake i made, i brought a pro flight yoke when i needed something more suitable for the hours i sim and i learnt the hard way and wasted money. Buy smart, buy for the time you have available to fly. p.s. it would of been nice if the Saitek pro flight yoke was designed to be serviced on its moving parts as that would extend its life span a lot. -Paul-
August 20, 201213 yr Not everyone can go ahead and purchase a $400 yoke. Yes they can. Everyone ready to enter this hobby will eventually be able to buy a PFC yoke. The question is only dedication and saving up for it. Just think how much money people are giving out on scenery, aircraft, even a Saitek yoke. So, if you can pay €100 for Saitek, you can also pay €500 for PFC. Just maybe not right away. And nothing in life has to be bought right away. Not saying they should... just that a simmer looking for fixes might be very interested in going that way.
August 20, 201213 yr Commercial Member Yes they can. Everyone ready to enter this hobby will eventually be able to buy a PFC yoke. The question is only dedication and saving up for it. So people who opt not to spend €500 on a PFC yoke and perhaps have priorities somewhere else, are not dedicated to the hobby? Interesting... That means that you aren't dedicated enough either, since you are still sporting plastic Saitek pedals and plastic Saitek throttle quadrants... I guess it's time to show some dedication too and save up for some PFC Cirrus Rudder Pedals and Revolution SimProducts motorized throttle quadrant! Regards, Efrain RuizLiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️
August 20, 201213 yr You misunderstood my wording of dedication. I ment dedication to saving. Many people (including me) have troubles saving up. Yes, I would LOVE the motorized quadrant, and saving for it is not a problem - the problem is space in my room in which I can't fit those. This is why I am still on the crappy Saitek TQ and Saitek Pedals. And I actually have Saitek pedals because PFC ones need another chair, a fixed chair, which is a no-go in my room which is not only for flight simming but I also do other gaming. I don't have much money, but if I decide I'll save up to something, I'll wait long enough to get it. Something I hard-learned from my girlfriend... thanks dear.
August 20, 201213 yr Commercial Member You misunderstood my wording of dedication. I ment dedication to saving. Many people (including me) have troubles saving up. Yes, I would LOVE the motorized quadrant, and saving for it is not a problem - the problem is space in my room in which I can't fit those. This is why I am still on the crappy Saitek TQ and Saitek Pedals. And I actually have Saitek pedals because PFC ones need another chair, a fixed chair, which is a no-go in my room which is not only for flight simming but I also do other gaming. I don't have much money, but if I decide I'll save up to something, I'll wait long enough to get it. Something I hard-learned from my girlfriend... thanks dear. Ditto, you have your reasons for not having a much better throttle quadrant or rudder pedals. Others have their reason for not having a PFC yoke. Both yours and theirs, are valid reasons. See, Word Not Allowed, it's not just as simple as telling someone, throw that crap away and get a better product. ^_^ Regards, Efrain RuizLiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️
August 20, 201213 yr Efrain, Your original post was weighted around money. All I wanted to point out is that money is often not the problem. Of course everyone will have their reasons, but pointing out the $600 yoke is too expensive over the Saitek yoke is a poor excuse not to get a PFC yoke (or any other expensive piece of hardware). And the reason I said it was because the poster asked for a fix... that would be a fix. At least one of the fixes. And in the end, if this doesn't reach you, the post did contain a wee bit of sarcasm... so man oh man, take it with a bit of grin and you'll see what I mean!
August 20, 201213 yr Commercial Member Srdan, how can you just say money is not the problem? Not everyone can afford to spend $600 on a yoke when for 1/6th of the price, they can get the same job accomplished. If you have the financial means to spend money like that, more power to you. What's shocking to me is how you just assume that people that don't spend $600 on a yoke because it is expensive TO THEM, are just using a poor excuse. It's obvious no matter what I say will not change your opinion because that's simply how you think and I respect that. This is it, this is my last response to you regarding this conversation. If you want to continue it, you can just PM me. Regards, Efrain RuizLiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️
August 20, 201213 yr I say, let's just agree to disagree. I also respect your opinion(s), and I think partially you are right that some have other priorities. In my opinion, I think we both stated some quite valid points. I'm sure many will buy the yoke and many will not, no matter what we two say ^_^
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