George,>> In my opinion it ranks up there with the PMDG, RFPB2 etc. as far as quality and support.Support certainly yes. And I second your very positive opinion, it's a remarkable product. Especially the easy accessibility is well done and this is great, because it makes this beautiful bird more popular. But it is an entry-level Tu-154 with all the ups and downs connected with that.Putting it on the quality level of PMDG and RFPB2 goes too far for my taste, simply because major Tu-154 systems are missing or drastically simplified. I'm talking about the TKS-P2 course system with it's gyroscopes and induction sensors (it's in the overhead panel, but just a dummy) and the NVU navigation. This is the heart of the Tu-154 regarding navigation and drastically simplified ! Imagine in the PMDG 737 and the RFPB2 you could only load an FS standard flight plan, press two buttons and that's it ... Freeware alternatives are rarely (and sadly!!) taken as serious as payware products, but for the Tu-154 this is more than necessary !The freeware version Tu-154B2 from Project Tupolev offers all the above mentioned systems, contrary to the Igfly model the flight dynamics are admired also by critical Tu-154 pilots (I'm in contact with two) and a lot of details incl. the cockpit sounds are more authentic. These guys even made their own joystick routine to get rid of some Microsoft limitations or made a custom stabilizer handling getting rid of the faulty Microsoft Elevator trim. More simulation is probably not possible, although that makes it hard to learn and less accessible.So the IGFLY Tu-154 is definitely above average no doubt. It's good, but not great. And the "as real as it gets" Tu-154 is available for just a few cents download costs !MikePS : I'm not talking about the model available here in the AVSIM library, I mean this : http://tu154.avsim.bestpeople.ru (temporary adress, normally just http://tu154.avsim.ru )

Mike,I have the Project Tupolev 154 and it is indeed fantastic. Your are correct in saying that the systems modelling is incredible. Although I wouldn't classify the IGFLY as "entry level", it is not as complex as the PT version. I am amazed constantly at the dedication of many of the freeware developers with the quality of their offerings. BTW, do you know of any English manuals/translations for the Project Tupolev aircraft? This is one of the things that I really like about the IGFLY version. I can read the manual and figure out how to fly it:) Still haven't figured out everything on the PT version:-roll Thanks,

George,>> BTW, do you know of any English manuals/translations for the Project Tupolev aircraft?Yes, my tutorial :D : http://tu154.avsim.bestpeople.ru/files/tu_tutor.zip .That tutorial was a quickshot and covers only the basics (and my "German english" is probably horrible). It's based on version 9.0, so you might find some stuff that does not correspond to the 9.3 version.A second version with around 70 pages, NVU explanation and example flight is nearing completion.I agree, the IGFLY "M" is easier to learn, but that's also a matter of reduced systems. I have already tried to convince the Project Tupolev authors to include english tooltips as well, we'll see.I love both. The Project Tupolev version needs considerable time for flight preparation, which I sometimes don't have. That's were the IGFLY model comes in handy :) Mike

Ah, excellent. :) That up to date guide will be a blessing. :)If you'd like a native "englisher" to give it a proof-read let me know... :)

Guys, I downloaded the tutorial and would love to try this TU-154, but I do not understand any Russion at all and I can't even figure out how to download from that page. There is an 'English Version' link at the top, but it's broken. Any guidance on how to download what sounds like a superb aircraft would really be appreciated.Thanks,Philip.

>The freeware version (154B2, with VC) available here at avsim is by>far not as accurate as the IGFLY Tu-154M. >The freeware Tu-154B2 I was talking about was the one by Project>Tupolev : tu154.avsim.ru (seems temporarily unavailable because of>problems at avsim.ru).Hmm,looks like you live on a different planet than I do :). I would say exactly the opposite. The IGFly is a pice try for eye candy and "click-and-fly" pilots, but i

Hi Martin,>> looks like you live on a different planet than I do I would say I live on a planet where a lot of people can read. But not all.>> >The freeware version (154B2, with VC) available here at avsim is by far not as accurate as the IGFLY Tu-154M. Here I am talking about the Tu-154B2 by Tibor Kokai (available at avsim.com), which has nothing to do with the Project Tupolev Version.You are probably not aware there are two Tu-154B2 freeware versions. About the Tu-154 by Tibor Kokai you can read in the Flightxpress magazine 2/2004 (you are author there, aren't you ?). Hopefully the Project Tupolev B2 will also be reviewed there soon, by Urs Wildermuth I hope ...To quote myself, this is what I said (in this thread, just by the way) about the Project Tupolev Tu-154B2 :"which has certainly set the measure extremely high (so many details and finesse, it IMO even eats ALL western payware for breakfast)"The Project Tupolev Tu-154B2 is for me the best jet simulation that has ever been made, no matter if payware or freeware. I hope that clears up the confusion ;)Nice planet where we live, isn't it :+MikePS, there's another thread about the PT 154-B2 : http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho...97603&mode=full

HalloYou can also merge together exterior model with VC by Tibor with the best Tu-154 panel by Project Tupolev.You need this file from avsim.com:http://library.avsim.net/search.php?Search...=root&Go=SearchOr search tu154vc.zipAnd original panel ver 9.3 from Project Tupolev.( Main site: http://tu154.avsim.bestpeople.ru )you need these two files:http://tu154.avsim.bestpeople.ru/model/pt_tu154b2_v9.0.exehttp://tu154.avsim.bestpeople.ru/model/pt_...update_v9.3.exe

mikealpha,Sorry for the reply delay. I just returned from a short vacation.The SCDS Yak-40 is in the final stages of development with release hopefully due at the end of July. It really is an amazing little airliner. As I am flying a Beta version at the moment, I cannot comment fully on all systems but the 2D cockpit is amazing! The soundset is also very nice too. English tooltips are available the cockpit to aid us non-Russian pilots.An actual Yak-40 simulator has been used to aid development of the cockpit and systems.You can see more screenshots and a better description of the package over at http://www.east-intel.com/yak40/index_e.htm .Regards,Trevor

Thanks Trevor, that looks like a very nice addition to my Tu-154 fleet :)Mike

Argh,where

Martin,>> where

In case someone here installed Tibor's Tu-154 (with VC) in FS9 before. I'm having errors pointing to gau files when loading this aircraft. What can be wrong?

I should think whether about purchasing