hellohas any1 bought the Ariane 737ng.what im trying to found out is...does it actually do what the Ad says it does.seems there is so much speculation over this product,im starting to believe that the aircraft is a fictional piece of work.to me from the pictures ive seen and the actual advert ,it looks the best aircraft i've ever seen... stevei own all the PMDG productsathlon 300xpgigabyte 9800 128mbgigabyte KT400 motherboard1gig 333memory

I bought it - for $120 Canadian! As PT Barnum said...Anyway: no 2D panel, blurry VC graphics particularly the overhead which is inexcusable for this cost; 1 livery. FMC is ok. Some nice lighting effects. Haven't been able to engage LNAV, VNAV, AP for some unknown reason. Nice IRS feature.Frosting on windows is nice along with the pushback trucks and ground power (although haven't been able to get this going either).Nice model outside and flies nicely as well.Bottom line - outrageously overpriced for no 2D, blurried graphics plane with 1 livery.

Len---Do you have any screenshots you can post in the screenshots forum that can show members what you're talking about (I apologize if I've missed your post if you've already responded to someone else's request).-John

I did. I purchased some of their cockpits and 737s in the past already, they weren't too bad, so the NG deserves a chance, I think, Very expensive, and the copy protection (hardware-bound, PMDG started with a similar protection) is causing me headaches at the moment.Support is only e-mail at the moment (I sent two yesterday, still no answer; but Ariane usually replies within 24h), but a forum will be available soon.Don't know what major bugs the bird has yet (found some minor problems), but it flies well. I compared the flight handling with the PMDG yesterday and must say that I like the Ariane more, I'm a dedicated hand-flyer.A 2D panel is in the works, but I must say that I'm getting somehow familiar with the VC (2D is still my favourite, but somehow the VC is not bad as well). Since the VC is frame rate intensive, setting e.g. the heading on the MCP is a cumbersome process. The panel graphics are blurry to some extent, but I can live with that. Sounds are great, even if the altitude callouts are currently missing.Give the Ariane bird some more time, and I'm sure it will become a great product. Even if I'm a PMDG fan, they needed almost a year to finish their NG line and eliminate the bugs.Agreed, the Ariane 737 is expensive, but for loyal customers, there's a discount.I like it, and currently, I'm happy with the support too. Things can only get better.P.S.: The Ariane has some major advantages over the PMDG: the IRU for instance is one of them. And Ariane claims to have implemented techniques no other currently rivals (not even PMDG wich they consider not a tough competition).I bought some much, much, much worser aircraft in the past: A320PIC and Aviograsf A340 (which is still evolving, keep it coming guys, I wait for that!) for instance.Andreas

Seeing as that you guys have the PMDG birds also (at least I thought I read that, it's late, and I have a mild concussion), which sounds do you think are better?

hmmm jury's out i think.think ill leave it till they sort out some of the problems and also drop the price.nearly

VCe SERVICE UPDATE (SU v1.0) We are loking into these issues and will issue a service update as soon as possible.Service Update (SU v1.0) - requests and measures: 1 NAVBASE OUT OF DATE - -(The NavDATA file is not out of date as some report albeit wrongly - the NavDATA is dated 31 Jan 2004 (users can check the date of the file in the NAVDATA folder) - the POS INIT page has been re-edited and will be uploaded as part of service pack 1.2 NIGHT LIGHTING -colours as per Boeing specs for edge lighting to be added.3 CDU LIght -Additonal adjustment made to the CDUs to emulate blue (light) and purple blue (dark) actual Boeing PFD/ND CDU lighting colours to be added to SU v1.0.4 AUTOBRAKES - RTOsetting to switch back to DISABLE after take off - WRONG - Boeing Manual Section 14.0.0 states that the RTO has to be set to OFF manually after takeoff!5 HYD SYSTEM -When selected, flaps, spoilers and all other hydraulic systems should not be able to be used. FS PROBLEM - It may not be possible to stop the flaps or the spoilers from being seen to move outside because they are key assignments set by the exe? But inside the cockpit VCe we are looking to disable the flap gauge from showing movement and the spoiler ON light from coming on when these controls are selected with hydraulic set to OFF.6 MCP -Faster updating of VC-based numbers on SPD, ALT and HDG etc. (under research).7 POP UP MCP -(under research).8 GPWS -to activate GPWS TEST button.(under research).9 NAV COMM -Digital Readouts - Turn brightness setting of digital readouts on NAV and COMM AFT Electronics Panel sections. (under research).10 SHORT CUT SYSTEM -Shortcut via CTRL+key where several "views" can be defined (under research).11 EDGE LIGHTS -Edge Lighting added to the COMM, NAV and TRANSPONDER gauges/panels on the AFT Elec Panel. (under research).12 SELCAL - SELCAL and ID (under research).13 FMC/PROGRESS PAGE -Zulu Time and Fuel use - predictive assesment update during flight durations. (under research).14 LOCK UP EN-ROUTE -Possible mismatch or wrong allocation/conflict in LEGS or database - (under research).A date is to be set for Service Update (SU v1.0) - due next week - please see these pages and the NEWS pages for further information.

This topic has been mentioned many times before

JohnCiI'll try to post a screenie. I know how to post screenies on the flightsim forum but haven't tried here yet.

"I'll try to post a screenie. I know how to post screenies on the flightsim forum but haven't tried here yet."If you have problems you'll find plenty of help here. Lot's of folks would like to see screenies of that package.Greg

many times? It's all you can see on the boards for a while. Love them or hate them, and in this instance, it's hate them if you take the common wisdom. One post got to 180+ replies and not one positive, a few fence sitters, but the vast majority were against. Hmmmm, I'd hate to try introducing a product with that kind of pushback. I'm kind of new, so don't know what happened before, but obviously something did that I don't know about. Oh well, sometimes being in the dark is the same as being in the light. If you're philosophical...billg