Hi,

 

A friend (NGX pilot) is using the SW to shoot some approaches.

 

He noticed a feature that I don't know how to go around.

 

When you load a saved flight, plane fully configured for approach, you of course have to wait the initialization period. How do you go around the problem of the plane not responding and still moving forward on approach. Let's say you save it on short final and then resume it, it's not possible to control the aircraft during the first seconds, and finally once the init is over, the final is over too.

 

Is there a way to resume a flight without the airplane moving, so that you can really resume from where you saved? Without ending up for instance crashing on the short final.

 

Tero

Tero,

 

I haven't tried it on a short approach or finals yet, but what I do is to go into SLEW MODE ('Y' key or whatever you have it mapped to) and don't touch anyhting on they joystick or rudders for those 20 or so seconds. This way the aircraft shouldn't move and the 737 NGX is still initializing unlike in PAUSE.

 

You only need a good calibrated joystick for that which doesn't have any or close to zero spikes. This procedure has worked for me in a few cases.

 

Best regards,

Tero,

 

I haven't tried it on a short approach or finals yet, but what I do is to go into SLEW MODE ('Y' key or whatever you have it mapped to) and don't touch anyhting on they joystick or rudders for those 20 or so seconds. This way the aircraft shouldn't move and the 737 NGX is still initializing unlike in PAUSE.

 

You only need a good calibrated joystick for that which doesn't have any or close to zero spikes. This procedure has worked for me in a few cases.

 

Best regards,

 

Hi,

 

I actually tried this method immediately after posting the initial question.

 

Firstly I got some controller noise in Slew, so I mapped the "controller disconnect / ctrl+K" to one of his yoke's buttons. And another button for Slew. Then, as the flight was loaded, I first pressed "controller disconnect" and then "Slew". To keep the plane in the same place. It works. But, just as the timer comes to an end, (doesn't matter if you release the "locks" before the times ends or after it), for some reason the lateral mode of the autopilot disconnects and you can't re-connect it back. I tried this many times with many ways to slew and "unslew" during the init countdown, always with the same result as above.

 

My friend was a little frustrated, and I have to admit, during the time that I was testing this plane, I never saved approach situations myself. So I didn't face this dilemma. He flies the NG for real (I was supposed to write "NG pilot" in the initial post lol) and would like to save different phases of approach. To practise raw-data "stuff".

 

Is there any other work-around for this, or maybe even a fix coming for SP-next (don't know what it is) ?

 

Tero

But, just as the timer comes to an end, (doesn't matter if you release the "locks" before the times ends or after it), for some reason the lateral mode of the autopilot disconnects and you can't re-connect it back. I tried this many times with many ways to slew and "unslew" during the init countdown, always with the same result as above.

 

I have just got one situation which I am loading from time to time again but in that case the autopilot is disconnected so I didn't stumble across the problem you are describing, pardon! But I'll have another llok at it again and see if I can reproduce the problem you have. Unfortunately that's all I could add to help you, another method doesn't come to my mind :mellow:.

Have you tried pausing the sim before you save? Either that or just save it a bit earlier.

Have you tried pausing the sim before you save? Either that or just save it a bit earlier.

 

Yes, he had also saved many situations with Pause ON, to see if the init could be waited out. Init doesn't run when sim is on pause, so that doesn't help.

 

I see it like this: on the situations saved on the ground, this is not a problem at all. Who doesn't have 15 seconds of time to spare to wait until everything is ready.

 

But on situations saved in-flight, it seems to be more than a minor inconvenience as it prevents user from saving situations in any other kind of circumstances besides level flight, far enough from any point where the aircraft should be doing something on autopilot. Unless you can accept that during the init period, the aircraft will lose whatever maneuvering / profile it's following.

 

Tero

My system doesn't take very long to initialize at all. Have you tried restoring the flight, and then restoring it again, right away? If your problem is slow load time for a lot of scenery, this might alleviate it because the loading is done the first time and, depending on how memory is utilized, it might not need to reload it the second time.