Hello everyone,

 

Currently im running fsx on i7 960 at 4.2ghz. However its not enough when it comes to ngx, im getting 18-22fps in virtual cockpit where is the most detailed part of the aircraft. Also got problems with blurries in orbx sceneries. I could buy watercooler system and up to 4.5 ghz but i dont think 300mhz of difference will solve my existing problems.

 

So i decided to go with i5 3570k and new mobo. For further and low temp overclock ill disable ht. The vendor says its 4 cores. Normally is it 8 cores with ht or what ?

 

Also i need 40+ fps with ngx demanding areas such as aerosoft chicago or orbx melbourne...

 

Im using FSX BF3 and PS as top3 application on pc

 

Maybe people whos already have similar setup may share their experience with i5. Im also writing the whole setup:

 

i5 3570k

Asus Maximus IV Extreme Z

8gb corsair vengeance ram at 1600 mhz

Gtx 570 twin frozr iii

Thermaltake 750w

Got ssd for OS and normal hdd for fsx and other stuff

Noctua dh14 for cpu cooling solution

 

Best regards

 

Sorry for grammar errors if theres any im writing from ipad

No just 4. It has no HT functionality. De-lid it for thermal efficiency and you are good to go.

Expect 25 - 30FPS if you're at 18 - 22 now. 40, no way, sorry

Youre serious ? With i5 3570k ill get only 25 fps ? I saw on youtube and some threads that people gets 30+ fps with ngx.. So what do i need for running pmdg ngx, a nasa computer ?

Yeah, he's serious. People with high frame rate have settings turned down. You won't get a huge improvement in frame rate since you already run at 4.2Ghz.

Youre serious ? With i5 3570k ill get only 25 fps ? I saw on youtube and some threads that people gets 30+ fps with ngx.. So what do i need for running pmdg ngx, a nasa computer ?

 

40FPS is twice as much as what you have now. You don't get a 100% perf boost in a single generation stepup nowadays, not even close. Expect about a 30% considering your current overclock, so as VeryBumpy said, start looking at your settings, or those youtubers' settings for an explanation. If all you want is great looking videos ther's ways to do that with your current gear

But gentlemen, i'm talking about new setup, not overclocking current one.. I have 18-22 FPS with i7 960 @ 4.2.

 

And now i'm talking about to buy i5 3570K and overclock it to 4.6 or something (max possible with air) I dont have 18fps with i5 because i dont have it, that's why i asked question :huh:

Average FPS on my system in the absolute worst case scenario I can come up with is in the 20's, spikes up to 30 and dips down to 16. This is sitting in the NGX on the active runway at FSDT KJFK with UT2 100% traffic, GEX, UTX (all settings on), all settings highest in FSX except ground scenery shadows and bloom, time of day set to night and weather set to thunderstorm, looking out the cockpit at the terminal of KJFK. Higher FPS is possible, but you need to turn down settings, no way around it.

IB is about a 20% faster than your 960 clock for clock ALVAREZ. Factor in your current and projected overclock & do the math. Many of us here have been through the same type of upgrade, it's probably worth it provided that you know what to expect.

Ok, so considering %20 difference in 4.2Ghz, should i go with 4.5Ghz + WC (Cooler Master Eisberg probably) ?

I dont consider this option though, at 4.2Ghz with 1.455QPI and 1.4 something Vcore, it needs moaarrr power to be stable (after 70 degrees, BSOD) reduce values tho, runs ok with 4.1.. I'm pretty sure i cant go over 4.2 even with OC.

 

If i'll be more realistic, i'd be ok for setup which runs ngx at 30FPS at lock in demanding areas with 0-10 ground traffic, 0-30 AI traffic (Ultimate Traffic 2) scenery almost maxed, not density maybe.

 

Should i go with i7 2600K ? or 2700K ? or i5 3570K or (lol) i7 3770K ? I know that Ivy Bridge has problems with cooling, you have to re-apply paste etc. (TBH i'll ruin the chip, sure of it during re-pasting/removing it)

 

I may look like a noob and i'm sorry to bother you such questions, i made some mistakes in hardware stuff before, and now got a little budget for fsx, i have no room for error anymore..

 

PS: I really dont understand how people is gettin 60 FPS with NGX + ORBX Melbourne V2 + AI + Maxed settings, it's just not right (I'd say fake if i dont see framcounter above) I saw a video of someone with 26.000 LOD, maxed out with i7 2600K at 5.1Ghz i wouldn't believe if it was a edited video (in fact it was taken by camera i guess, could see screen's frames)

 

Best Regards

A system to run FSX smooth all the times with some addons doesn't exist yet. Default FSX will run very fast but who wants that?

 

What you have now is quite decent, frame rate gains will not be worth the upgrade. I'd wait for Haswell if I were you.

 

In the mean time, run in DX10 for better performance.

I completely agree with what VeryBumpy has said. Since your current system is not at all bad, you should wait for haswell. From what I know Haswell will be a completely new micro-architecture(as per Intel's 'tick-tock' thing) and will probably give you a significant boost(clock to clock) over your current system

Haswell is expected to be a 10 -15% faster than SB/IB clock for clock. Overclockability remains uncertain

Haswell is expected to be a 10 -15% faster than SB/IB clock for clock. Overclockability remains uncertain

 

This can be usefull maybe in case you dont read that article already:

 

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20120919160307_Intel_Haswell_Processors_to_Further_Improve_Overclocking.html

 

It also says Haswell will support LGA2011, meaning if we want futureproof mobo we should go with 2011 right ?

It also says Haswell will support LGA2011, meaning if we want futureproof mobo we should go with 2011 right ?

 

You missunderstood that part. It just says that you'll get features with Haswell that are only available in high-end platforms now, like LGA2011.