Hello folks,

I've assigned my x52Pro for three assignments in FSUIPC for the Throttles - Idle / Max / Reverse and it's working fine.

I've noticed, BEFORE I made the assignments, and when flying using AP & AutoThrottle, you could move the throttle lever on the Saitek Yoke and it would not

affect Auto Throttle and speed assignment...which "me thinks" is normal since the AP and AutoThrottle have control.

 

With the new assignment in FSUIPC, and flying in mode as above, if I move the Saitek throttle, it moves the throttles in the cockpit, thus changing speed, then the plane will revert back to the Auto throttle speed as assigned......I don't think this is correct? Am I missing a step is FSUIPC?

Thanks so much and have a blessed day.

Tom

I'm sure there are many FSUIPC experts on these boards, but why not ask the guru himself?

 

http://forum.simflight.com/forum/30-fsuipc-support-pete-dowson-modules/

 

John

betelgeuse,

Thanks so much....have posted there (where it belonged)

Have a blessed one.

Tom

I had the same issue after setting my Saitek yoke and throttles in FSUIPC using the AOA video. I fixed it by going into PMDG Setup/Options/Simulation page 2 and resetting A/T Manual Override to Never.

LRW,

Thanks - so, if I can ask, - you did set the min/max/reverse setup in FSUIPC (as I discussed in first thread) - and then proceeded in the FMC of the PMDG to "never" and that solved the issue?

Please tell me it's so! - I love the FSUIPC for the throttle, so much more precise, but couldn't handle the AT issue...seemed like with AT on, there was a constant fight between FSUIPC and the throttles.

Thanks so much for your interest and info. Let me know.

Tom

Tom,

 

On my Saitek throttle I use the throttle detent (button) for reverse, so the throttle calibration has "No reverse Zone" checked. Here's my FSUIPC config for reversers and throttles.

 

Left reverser:

 

 

Right reverser:

 

 

Throttles:

 

Hope this helps.

LRW,

Thanks so much for your screens...

I must have made a mistake based on your setup.

I set the "JoystickCalibration" tab with reverse zones and it worked, however with the issue of A/T - I did check A/T to "never" in FMC as discussed, but made no difference with issue.

Now, help me understand why you put info in the "Button & Switches" tab for the two throttle assignments?

To me, it appears the Joy #2 relates to the X52 throttle, but the button 8, I'm not sure about....what does this do - ???? reverse ?

Again, thanks so much and if you could clarify the question, maybe I can get this rascal put to bed!

Have a blessed day.

Tom

The bottom line is don't use FSUIPC Calibration of any sort with the NGX. You can ASSIGN them, no problem, but any Fsuipc calibration seems to mess with things badly. Make sure those levers are listed as Unprocessed on the FSUIPC calibration page. When you do this, it will fix your problem.

 

If you have jittery control axes these can be an additonal problem because any noise will be interpreted as an overidding throttle input when in Thrust Hold. Your best solution to this is to get a less noisy throttle quadrant or else, as suggested above, just live with the Never Overidde option.

 

I think it would have been better if PMDG had allowed for a configurable input "threshold" such that until breached, the autothrots are not overidden. So for instance if your noisy throttle is spiking back and forth around between 9800 and 11000 "units" you could set it so that this small amount of movement wasn't enough to trip the override logic. But, that isn't what they did, so it is what it is.

Now, help me understand why you put info in the "Button & Switches" tab for the two throttle assignments?

To me, it appears the Joy #2 relates to the X52 throttle, but the button 8, I'm not sure about....what does this do - ???? reverse ?

 

Tom,

 

Yes, 7 and 8 are my reverse buttons, which activate when you slide the throttles to the idle detent and then pull them the rest of the way to the bottom of the track.

 

As far as KG's recommendation not to use FSUIPC for calibration, that's what PMDG recommends in the intro doc.

 

• The PMDG 737NGX is fully compatible with FSUIPC except that we recommend that you do not calibrate your flight controllers through FSUIPC. We recommend that you use the driver/software that comes with your hardware. (Calibrating through FSUIPC may not cause any problems, but in certain circumstances with certain hardware we found that problems existed that could only be resolved by having the user conduct the calibration via the driver/software.)
  

 

 

I just got the AOA NGX training videos and followed their FSUIPC calibration procedure for the NGX (which they acknowledge goes against PMDG's recommendation) and the only noticeable difference for me is that my reversers work better now. Before, if thrust was idle I couldn't engage the reversers unless I advanced the throttle slightly before reversing. Now, it works perfectly from idle. Other than that everything else is about the same. So it appears to be a luck-of-the-draw and try-at-your-own-risk thing. Always back up your config and ini files before starting, to make it easier to recover if disaster strikes.

LRW,

Thanks friend.

First, I do understand that "by the book" PMDG and FSUIPC are not compatible....

 

OK - I want to confirm that you make NO entries in FSUIPC concerning Joystick Calibration Tab - ONLY set to "No Reverse"....and you're done.

OK - In button and switches - what does the button 7 & 8 refer too. Have you made an entry in FSX referring to button 7&8? - This is where I'm confused / or / does FSUIPC

automatically assign those?

 

Sorry for the ignorance - just want to get resolved and learn the "why of things".

 

Thanks for your help and patience.

 

Tom

OK - I want to confirm that you make NO entries in FSUIPC concerning Joystick Calibration Tab - ONLY set to "No Reverse"....and you're done.

 

I did calibrate my throttles from that window. And I forgot that I first had to use the Axis Assignment tab to select my throttles and set the option to "Send direct to FSUIPC Calibration".

 

 

 

OK - In button and switches - what does the button 7 & 8 refer too. Have you made an entry in FSX referring to button 7&8? - This is where I'm confused / or / does FSUIPC

automatically assign those?

 

Another correction. I just realized that the reverser windows I posted are wrong for the NGX. That was my old config that never worked quite right. Here is what I'm currently using:

 

 

Again, 7 is left reverser and 8 is the right reverser. I think the axis and button values are assigned by the driver. I have a Saitek yoke/throttle combo plus the stand-alone throttle quadrant. I use the stand-alone quad for my throttles. It has 3 toggle buttons (one below each slider axis) that are numbered 0-5. The 3 sliders each have a reverse button, which are 6, 7, and 8. I use the 1st axis for speed brake, the 2nd axis is left throttle, and axis 3 is right throttle.

 

I use the 1st axis of the combo throttle for flaps. (the corresponding buttons on the combo throttle are numbered 14-22 because the throttle and yoke are treat like a single joystick with a lot of buttons and the yoke buttons are counted first, the throttle buttons second, and then the yoke hat button positions come after that.

LRW,

Thanks for all of your help. Having some issues with FSUIPC not recognizing the throttle now. Will post at Pete Dowsons' site.

Have a blessed one.

Tom