Has anyone noticed this before - it's really annoying/frustrating me?Whenever I am told by ATC that I need to Go Around, or I declare a missed approach for some reason, the ATC sends me hundreds of miles away from the airport before it vectors me back in. Last night I was heading into EGLL, declared a missed approach, and ended up over Cornwall somewhere. This tends to happen at just about every airport I go to (not just EGLL) when I end up going around for some reason.If you've only done a short flight, it can double the length of the flight!Also, I just wondered what the difference between "Declare Missed Approach" and "Declare Missed Approach - Published" is? I've tried both, and both send me miles before they allow me to land.I'd really appreciate some help!Gary

I've had this happen as well, though not every time. Most recently, on a missed approach in to Chicago, I got re-routed well into Iowa before they let me turn around.In the future, if this happens, I'll simply file a new flight plan into the target airport as soon as I sense I'm being sent too far out. Anyone know if this will get me re-routed on approach any sooner?

Yeah, I didn't know if this was just me not knowing how to do the missed approach procedure properly, or a "feature" of fs9's ATC.I have UT on my system so the big airports are always pretty busy, and this really spoils it as i usually end up having to go-around!Gary

Gary and dugan,If you would really like to avoid a (or yet another) go-around, pause the sim and bump the sim rate (hold "R" and press "+") up to 8x and back down (hold "R" and press "-") to normal, and the AI traffic will disappear from in front of you and reset on the ground per their schedules after the sim reloads. You can then proceed with your final, but make sure you do it before ATC issues the go-around; fact is, they don't change their minds.I've often experienced very lengthy go-arounds when flying IFR and most times prefer to fly the published procedures when they're available. When flying published procedures, it's very important to have a copy (paper or digital) of the published procedure and to fly it within reasonable accuracy. I haven't had the pleasure of discovering ATC's margins of tolerance when flying said procedures, but I believe you're pretty much expected to navigate on your own through its rigors until ATC takes over again. Though ATC does not issue any holds that may be shown in the missed procedures, you will at least be expected to fly to the Initial Approach Fix and may be able to receive vectors to it (don't recall at the moment).If everything in the second paragraph is gibberish, then enjoy the cornfields of Iowa for now and learn missed approach procedures when you can. May save you some time later. :-)Happy flying,Kevin

I use Ultimate Traffic at 100% most of the time and fly mainly IFR into and out of major airports all over the world. I have developed a feel for when there may be a "go around" command and have started to resort to pausing FS9, changing to 0% traffic, restarting, pausing again and going back to 100%. It is a minor pain but it sure eliminates those go arounds and keeps traffic realistic (well mostly real)

Missed Approach-Published allows you to fly the MISSED APPROACH Procedure according to the charts. ATC will give you two instructions: 1) Fly the MISSED APPROACH procedure as published. 2) Contact ATC when you reach the FIX/VOR desginated. It will then take over and give you further vectors.

Well, I have to be fair - in this case it wasn't too much traffic that was the problem, it was that I wasn't exactly lined up very well - so entirely mu fault!! I find that in Ultimate Traffic, if you turn on the option to display the speed of the AI traffic, it can help you maintain a good seperation with any aircraft that have been cleared before yours. It doesn't solve the problem of busy airports, but it helps.

Last time I get a go around command (at KSFO San Fransisco in a Cessna 172) I just made a 180 deg left turn to get in position to land again. When I reached that position I was cleared for landingagain.

Hi - I've been reading this thread with big interest. And I have two questions for Steven who writes:'Missed Approach-Published allows you to fly the MISSED APPROACH Procedure according to the charts. ATC will give you two instructions: 1) Fly the MISSED APPROACH procedure as published. 2) Contact ATC when you reach the FIX/VOR desginated. It will then take over and give you further vectors'.1) The charts you are mentioning is that any special charts or the ones I can download from ex Vatsim?2)How do I know which charts that ATC is 'seeing' and if there are any differents from the charts that I have downloaded?Cheers,Walle

1, The charts mentioned are the regular approach charts available through Jeppesen or on the net. I don't know about VATSIM but I guess they use the same or at least the same procedures.2, FS ATC will see the missed approach for the approach it has cleared you. For every approach there is a corresponding missed approach procedure. Just follow that and contact ATC when you finished the missed approach procedure. Most of them will lead in an area near the airport, others will be farther out too.With all the shortcomings of FSATC in regards to terrain and such I really wonder why people are still letting FSATC vector themselves to the fix. It really becomes a much nicer and more logic eyperience when you fly the published approaches. Now that MS has finally implemented these I really wonder why simmers obviously don't use them.Alex

Thats why there is a WAY better way of getting ATC and its called VATSIM. Why do people even use that AI ATC when the real thing is available? I will never understand

Well, among other reasons I love the AI traffic with UT. The variety and the traffic according to schedules is simply great.Alex

Thx Alex, didn't knew fs2004 could do that. lokking forward trying it later.Regarding to the following: 'Thats why there is a WAY better way of getting ATC and its called VATSIM. Why do people even use that AI ATC when the real thing is available? I will never understand'Let me explain it - because in 85% of all cases the airport you are flying into in fs2004 is not active or occupied with a controller. Mostly it is only big airports like Amsterdam, Frankfurth, London, Stockholm etc. etc that is active (and normally only between 18 and 22 central european time).cheers, walle

I've started using the TrafficToolbox.dll from the FS2004 Traffic SDK. If I encounter an AI aircraft on approach that I think will interfere with my landing, I'll use the Traffic Toolbox and delete the offender. I fly using ProjectAI at 100%, and it can get quite busy. I find this the best method of getting around the "Go Around". I don't use it to much as the "Go Around" adds some variety.All you need to do (if you don't have it already) is download and install the Traffic SDK, then copy the TrafficToolbox.dll into your FS modules folder, it will show up on your tool bar the next time you start FS, then go to the either Traffic Explorer or Traffic Map, select the offender and hit the "Delete" key. Voila, he's gone and all the other AI are unaffected.Jim

Great tip!Another possibility is to unburden FSATC from separation by thinking!!! If you have a TCAS maintain separation by yourself! What I mean is I can land my C310 with a IAS of 160 almost up to the threshold and then pull the brakes and still land within all the limits on a long runway. Or I can pull the brakes and float down with a IAS of 85. That brings variety to your landings and really trains your skills.Alex