Does anyone have an airline package for India's airline - Jet Airways which is can install through project ai's installer? Any indian simmers who may be having this?thanks,pranav

The only packages you can install using the PAI installer are official PAI packages. You should be able to find the repaints and flightplans and install them yourself however.Glenn

They have AI flight plans on www.mostrealisticai.com - there is also an automated installer. I don't think this installs the textures, and you have to install those manually. A few months ago, I downloaded AI planes and thee flight plans, and created my own traffic file for Indian AI traffic using Traffic Tools. It was time consuming, but totally worth it.Hope this helps.H

MRAI's installer also does aircraft textures. Though not as easy as PAI's more of a point and click type installer. I will say though using the MRAI installer is a LOT easier than doing it completely form scratch.:-outtahttp://publish.hometown.aol.com/p3superb/i...s/sign_name.jpgThere is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness".- unknown"My daddy gives me up, to fight for you"- a US Military Members Child

Great I'll try this out. Good to see all the major Indian carriers there.Just one last question, I already use Project AI and have installed quite a few of the airline packages from there. Does this programme work independently of Project AI? Does it clash?-Pranav

I have a mixture of flightplans from all sources, don't clash as long as you are careful.Obviously if you have the same airline in twice, you'll end up with too many flights!More to the point though, you have to be careful with how you construct the constituent files: AI flights consist of 3 elements - 1) aircraft identity numbers, titles and cruise speed specifications, 2) flightplans which refer to the aircraft identity numbers and 3) airports. These 3 files are usually compliled into the .bgl file used by FS by a program called Traffic Tools.I'd be wary of using duplicate aircraft identity numbers for different planes and therefore you need a numbering system. Each of the main sources for flightplans have their own systems.I'm in the process of switching over to MRAI - these are called Most Realistic for good reason. Because of the way it works (it goes straight to the creation of a .bgl file for a SINGLE airline) it doesn't seem to get confused by any flightplans you already have, so I'd recommend MRAI. It also has a very useful checking process, which makes sure all (and I mean ALL) of your aircraft are in working order before it starts up.

Thanks indeed. I am not yet familiar with using traffic tools and intend to download packages of airlines NOT featured in PAI...I'm gonna go home and do that tonight...I am assuming that MRAI should have an easy installation program (just like PAI) and that if I can find my way around the PAI installer, I should be able to manage MRAI as well. I will however, keep in mind the excellent and concise pointers you've given me....I do hope I am current in my assumptions.Thanks,-Pranav

Yes, I find MRAI very easy to use.The process is:1) you download the airline from the MRAI website (obviously!)2) open it with the installer, that checks ALL of you aircraft and gives you any error messages (this can take a while to fix if you have a bunch of problems buried in there)3) you have to "associate" the aircraft MRAI wants to use in the flightplans with the aircraft you have installed in FS. MRAI searches your FS aircraft for a text string - so it may look for "Air India Airlines" (just an example). This may not find anything, but you can change it to "Air India" which will pick up the correct planes if you didn't bother to type in "Airlines"! You can also search by callsign - so if you can't find any aircraft with "British Airways" try "BA" or "Speed Bird".4) finish and that's it.Of course if you don't have the correct aircraft installed, you have to find them for yourself, MRAI doesn't do that bit.Also note that MRAI has scheduled airlines only, no charter airlines. There is a link to cargo flightplans in MRAI format.

Thanks indeed!I'm wondering a combination of PAI, MRAI and Aardwark pretty much takes care of one's AI needs and with respectable frame-rates...One doesn't really need anything else....-Pranav

I'm a little stuck.Where do I get the aircraft from? What if I don't see a aircraft type? Do I choose an aircraft which is part of an airline package I downloaded from PAI? Do I for example allocate a lufthansa airbus 320 to an Indian airlines 320 (which im installing through MRAI) so that i have an a/c model?Please help?-Pranav

I think I've done something wrong here. How do i uninstall a particualr airline ive installed from MRAI?-PRANAV

To uninstall it just delete the .bgl file in the ...sceneryworldscenery folder. MRAI should have created one when you installed the airline.For airbuses go to www.fsrepaints.de as it has many of FSPainter's excellent paint schemes. You obviously need to find an Air India repaint for this particular install.MRAI is definitely the way to go. Separate .bgl traffic files for each airline give far less headaches and once you get going you'll see the true power of this.

That's the difference between Project AI and MRAI installers: PAI installs the required aircraft, MRAI provides schedules only.I'm quite a fan of PAI - very organised, have a lot of stuff you can't get elsewhere. If you don't want to install their complete packages, you can download their aircraft separately. http://www.projectai.com/However, the general opinion is that the best AI planes are Aaadvark http://www.ai-aardvark.com/ (and I can't disagree with that). But you'll have to match them with schedules from elsewhere.Regretably, Aardvark doesn't do Airbus. The previous poster mentioned FSPainter, but if you are starting out, I'd use PAI Airbuses - maybe they aren't the best looking models available but they always fly right and most importantly it's easy to find what you are looking for. Finding FSPainter models is like finding hens teeth.MRAI schedules are all weekly and are derived from real-life airline schedules - in other words they run with the exact number of aircraft which are kept busy all the time, you never get an aircraft left hogging a parking space all day, which some schedules can do.In summary, if you want a quick, well organised and free solution, use PAI. If you want to put in the extra effort, use Aardvark models when you can and MRAI schedules. But if you do that, you'll have to install all the aircraft yourself and associate them with the flightplans using the MRAI installer.

You need to find an Indian Airlines A320. There is one on PAI, I looked.Go to http://www.projectai.comThe aircraft models (including the A320 if you don't already have it) are under "Official Files" on the right, you'll need the PAI installer to install them.For specific airline repaintsGo to http://www.projectai.comSelect "PAI libraries" on the rightSelect "Browse & Search in Text Mode"Type "Indian Airlines" and you'll find 3 different repaints for the Indian Airlines A320, together with an A300, ATR42 and a B732. Looks like you'd be missing a Dornier D-228, best thing would be to associate that with the ATR - both twin turbo-props aren't they?You need to install these manually, making sure you have the text "Indian Airlines" in the ui_variation= line in the aircraft.cfg file and "Indair" in the atc_airline= line.If you then run the MRAI installer for the Indian Airlines flightplan schedule, you should see the Indian Airlines aircraft you installed, which you can then associate with the schedule (not Lufthansa!!).

Thanks for helping me out and looking on PAI as well. I really appreciate it.Will try this when I get back after work today and then hassle you again! :)Thanks a lot,-Pranav