My system spec

 

Windows 7 64bit - 128GB Crucial M4 SSD - 2TB Master Hard Drive
Intel Core i7 4+4 Core 2600K 3.4Ghz 8MB L3 CACHE - ThermalTake Contac29 Cooler
16GB DDR3 2133Mhz - Patriot Viper V3 Red Performance/Gaming RAM -
AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB PCI-E 3.0 Ready Graphics - GSX G.Services

 

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I use the hat switch on my joystick to pan around in outside view. But lately it's noticeably sluggish when panning round. It doesn't have that smooth movement when panning like it use to have.

Any ideas what my be causing this please.

 

 

This is my camera cfg file.

 

 

[CameraDefinition.001]
Title = Cockpit
Guid = {B1386D92-4782-4682-A137-738E25D1BAB5}
Description = This is the description of the cockpit view
Origin = Cockpit
ShowPanel = Yes
SnapPbhAdjust = Ordinal
SnapPbhReturn = True
PanPbhAdjust = Ordinal
PanPbhReturn = True
Track = None
ShowAxis = FrontOnly
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 1.0
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
HotKeySelect=2

[CameraDefinition.002]
Title = Virtual Cockpit
Guid = {C95EAB58-9E4A-4E2A-A34C-D8D9D948F078}
Description = This is the description of the virtual cockpit view.
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = Yes
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.7
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=30
HeadingPanRate=75
PanAcceleratorTime=0
HotKeySelect=1

[CameraDefinition.003]
Title = Spot
Guid = {BCA3FDD1-FB83-4BBA-8407-4922A7F0D00C}
Description = This is the description of the spot view.
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Ordinal
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = FlatChase
ShowAxis = No
AllowZoom = Yes
InitialZoom = 1.0
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = FALSE
Transition = Yes
ShowLensFlare=TRUE
Category = Outside
ClipMode = Spot
PitchPanRate=30
HeadingPanRate=75
PanAcceleratorTime=0

[CameraDefinition.004]
Title = Locked Spot
Guid = {BCA3FDD1-FB83-4BBA-8407-4922A7F0D00D}
Description = This is the description of the spot view.
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = FlatChaseLocked
ShowAxis = No
AllowZoom = Yes
InitialZoom = 1.0
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = FALSE
Transition = Yes
ShowLensFlare=TRUE
Category = Outside
ClipMode = Spot
PitchPanRate=30
HeadingPanRate=75
PanAcceleratorTime=0
HotKeySelect=3

[CameraDefinition.005]
Title = FlyBy
Guid = {6B79DD49-9B4A-439D-BF40-ACBF157B0BA0}
Description = This is the description of the fly by view.
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = FlyBy
ShowAxis = No
AllowZoom = Yes
InitialZoom = 10.0
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = FALSE
Transition = No
ChaseDistance = 500
ChaseHeading = 15
ChaseAltitude = 10
ChaseTime = 20
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Outside
ClipMode = Tower

[CameraDefinition.006]
Title = Top-Down
Guid = {A2849229-938A-448f-8AC6-01EF2291C171}
Description = This is the description of the map or top down view.
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Orthogonal
PanPbhAdjust = Orthogonal
Track = None
ShowAxis = Yes
AllowZoom = Yes
InitialZoom = 256
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ShowWeather = No
XyzAdjust = FALSE
Transition = No
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Outside
HotKeySelect=4

[CameraDefinition.007]
Title = Nearest Tower
Guid = {60BC0819-BD04-4AF6-8954-8FC8AA3545FF}
Description = This is the description of the tower view.
Origin = Tower
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = Track
ShowAxis = No
AllowZoom = Yes
InitialZoom = 8.0
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = FALSE
Transition = No
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Tower
ClipMode = Tower
NoSortTitle = True

[CameraDefinition.008]
Title = Facilities Tower
Guid = {AA8C80C0-9EE2-4284-A1C2-B20CD3F5F3D9}
Description = This is the description of the tower view.
Origin = Fixed
InstancedBased = Yes
SnapPbhAdjust = None
PanPbhAdjust = None
Track = Track
ShowAxis = No
AllowZoom = Yes
InitialZoom = 8.0
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = FALSE
Transition = No
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Tower
CycleHideRadius = 7
ClipMode = Tower

[CameraDefinition.009]
Title = Facilities Runway
Guid = {607C4520-CA6F-4135-AE10-8BF28838068F}
Description = This is the description of the runway view.
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
InstancedBased = Yes
SnapPbhAdjust = None
PanPbhAdjust = None
TargetCategory = Fixed
Track = TrackBank
ShowAxis = Yes
AllowZoom = Yes
InitialZoom = 1.0
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = FALSE
Transition = No
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Runway
CycleHideRadius = 7
ClipMode = Tower
CycleHidden=Yes

[CameraDefinition.010]
Title = AI Planes
Guid = {75A8357E-AB58-4294-9416-90C73FAFDD90}
Description = This is the description of the AI aircraft view.
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = FlatChaseLocked
InstancedBased = Yes
ShowAxis = No
AllowZoom = Yes
InitialZoom = 1.0
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = FALSE
Transition = No
ShowLensFlare=TRUE
Category = AirTraffic
TargetCategory = Container
ClipMode = Spot
PitchPanRate=30
HeadingPanRate=75
PanAcceleratorTime=0
CycleHidden=Yes

[CameraDefinition.011]
Title = Multiplayer Planes
Guid = {2559BCED-9F13-4bc0-88C8-3996B9311681}
Description = This is the description of the Multiplayer other aircraft view.
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
InstancedBased = Yes
SnapPbhAdjust = None
PanPbhAdjust = None
TargetCategory = Container
Track = TrackBank
ShowAxis = Yes
AllowZoom = Yes
InitialZoom = 1.0
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = FALSE
Transition = No
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = MultiPlayer
CycleHideRadius = 7
ClipMode = Tower
CycleHidden=Yes

 

 

Any ideas anyone please.

You may need to post your Fsx Cfg, so others can take a look at your settings.   There are many things that can cause stuttering when panning including wrong settings in cfg.   When I get stutters, it's usually because the CPU is being over-taxed (ie. frames dropping down to low teens or lower).  As soon as FPS is up to par, then panning is very smooth.   Just a suggestion to test out.

 

Chris

Thanks for the reply Chris

 

I have tweaked my FSX.cfg recently via the FSX Geneius YouTube video. The graphics are so much better and smoother, but whether this is also the cause of the slight lagging when panning in outside view I don't know.

 

Anyway, here is my fsx.cfg log below.

 

[GRAPHICS]
ForceFullScreenVSync=1
SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED_10=1693500672
SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED=1693500672
D3D10=0
TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=1024
NUM_LIGHTS=8
AIRCRAFT_SHADOWS=1
AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1
COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1
LANDING_LIGHTS=1
AC_SELF_SHADOW=0
EFFECTS_QUALITY=2
GROUND_SHADOWS=0
TEXTURE_QUALITY=3
IMAGE_QUALITY=0
See_Self=1
Text_Scroll=1
HIGHMEMFIX=1
[bUFFERPOOLS]
Poolsize=0
[sOUND]
AmbientUIMusicVolume=-6.000000
SOUND_FADER1=0.500000
SOUND_FADER2=0.500000
SOUND_FADER3=0.500000
SOUND_FADER4=0.500000
AmbientUIMusic=FSX01
PrimaryDevice={DEF00000-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}
VoiceDevice={DEF00002-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}
SOUND=1
SOUND_QUALITY=2
SOUND_LOD=0
UISound=1
AmbientUI=0
[Display]
ChangeTime=4.000000
TransitionTime=4.000000
ActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255
ActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=0,28,140,64
NonActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255
NonActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=24,33,87,64
InfoUpperRightTextColor=255,0,0
InfoUpperRightBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0
InfoLowerLeftTextColor=255,255,255
InfoLowerLeftBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
InfoLowerRightTextColor=255,255,255
InfoLowerRightBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
InfoBrakesEnable=True
InfoParkingBrakesEnable=True
InfoPauseEnable=True
InfoSlewEnable=True
InfoStallEnable=True
InfoOverspeedEnable=True
BLOOM_EFFECTS=0
SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1
TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=40
UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=0
WideViewAspect=False
[JOBSCHEDULER]
AffinityMask=84
[Main]
User Objects=Airplane, Helicopter
SimObjectPaths.0=SimObjects\Airplanes
SimObjectPaths.1=SimObjects\Rotorcraft
SimObjectPaths.2=SimObjects\GroundVehicles
SimObjectPaths.3=SimObjects\Boats
SimObjectPaths.4=SimObjects\Animals
SimObjectPaths.5=SimObjects\Misc
ProcSpeed=7187
PerfBucket=7
HideMenuNormal=0
HideMenuFullscreen=1
Maximized=1
Location=439,142,1481,938,\\.\DISPLAY1
[PANELS]
IMAGE_QUALITY=1
DEFAULT_VIEW=0
QUICKTIPS=1
PANEL_OPACITY=100
PANEL_MASKING=1
PANEL_STRETCHING=1
UNITS_OF_MEASURE=0
[Weather]
WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1
MinGustTime=10
MaxGustTime=500
MinGustRampSpeed=1
MaxGustRampSpeed=200
MinVarTime=5
MaxVarTime=50
MinVarRampSpeed=10
MaxVarRampSpeed=75
TurbulenceScale=1.000000
WeatherServerAddress=fs2k.zone.com
WeatherServerPort=80
WeatherGraphDataInDialog=0
AdjustForMagVarInDialog=1
DynamicWeather=5
DownloadWindsAloft=1
DisableTurbulence=0
CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=6
DETAILED_CLOUDS=1
CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=8
THERMAL_VISUALS=0
[DISPLAY.Device.AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series.0]
Mode=1920x1080x32
TriLinear=1
[AccelerationPack]
ControlsFirstRun=0
HomePageFirstRun=0
[CONTROLS]
Controls_Default=Standard
Controls_Current=Standard
KBDAIL=64
KBDELEV=64
KBDRUD=64
[TextInfo.1]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6
[TextInfo.2]
FrameRate=1,1
LockedFrameRate=1,2
GForce=1,3
FuelPercentage=1,4
[TextInfo.3]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6
FrameRate=2,1
LockedFrameRate=2,2
GForce=2,3
FuelPercentage=2,4
[slewTextInfo.1]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
[slewTextInfo.2]
FrameRate=1,1
LockedFrameRate=1,2
[slewTextInfo.3]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
FrameRate=2,1
LockedFrameRate=2,2
[Trusted]
C:\FSX\fsdreamteam\couatl\couatl.exe.qoarbtltkowoozrhcqqwbzhebwltcrnkhaurzaea=1
C:\FSX\bglmanx.dll.akbiwetbnkokehrecwitetqlileurbhaqrcczczo=1
C:\FSX\GAUGES\737-400.DLL.lriqaqlcakrrobetnouniqtabqcuenrirwwozlwt=2
[DynamicHeadMovement]
LonAccelOnHeadLon=-0.020000
LonAccelOnHeadPitch=-0.010000
RollAccelOnHeadLat=0.010000
YawAccelOnHeadLat=-0.100000
RollAccelOnHeadRoll=0.100000
MaxHeadAngle=5.000000
MaxHeadOffset=0.300000
HeadMoveTimeConstant=1.000000
[VirtualCopilot]
VirtualCopilotActive=0
[uSERINTERFACE]
PageID=1
SHOW_MISSION_CAPTIONS=0
PAUSE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=0
PROMPT_ON_EXIT=1
SITUATION=FLIGHTS\OTHER\FLTSIM
Map_Orientation=2
OpenATCOnCreate=0
[ATC]
ShowATCText=1
COMM_MSG_NONE_COLOR=FFFFFFFF
COMM_MSG_ATC_USER_COLOR=FFB6FFB6
COMM_MSG_USER_ATC_COLOR=FFFFD21B
COMM_MSG_ATC_AI_COLOR=FF00FF00
COMM_MSG_AI_ATC_COLOR=FFFF7840
AutoOpenAirTrafficWindow=1
UsePilotVoice=1
PilotVoice=0
[PointOfInterestSystem]
CycleSetting=0
[sCENERY]
LENSFLARE=0
DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1
IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=5
[TrafficManager]
AirlineDensity=30
GADensity=30
FreewayDensity=40
ShipsAndFerriesDensity=20
LeisureBoatsDensity=20
IFROnly=0
AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=3
[TERRAIN]
LOD_RADIUS=4.500000
MESH_COMPLEXITY=75
MESH_RESOLUTION=20
TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=25
AUTOGEN_DENSITY=4
DETAIL_TEXTURE=1
WATER_EFFECTS=6
[AContain]
ShowLabels=1
ShowUserLabel=0
ShowLabelManufacturer=0
ShowLabelModel=1
ShowLabelTailNumber=1
ShowLabelDistance=1
ShowLabelAltitude=1
ShowLabelAirline=0
ShowLabelAirlineAndFlightNumber=0
ShowLabelFlightPlan=0
ShowLabelContainerId=0
ShowLabelAirspeed=0
ShowLabelHeading=0
LabelDelay=1000
LabelColor=FFFF0000
[iNTERNATIONAL]
ASLAT=2
ASLON=1
MEASURE=0
[REALISM]
PFactor=0.000000
Torque=0.000000
GyroEffect=0.000000
CrashTolerance=0.000000
General=0.000000
UnlimitedFuel=False
AllowEngineDamage=True
TrueAirspeed=False
AutoCoord=True
RealMixture=False
StressDamage=False
GEffect=False
ManualLights=True
GyroDrift=False
CrashWithDyn=False
CrashDetection=False
AutoTrim=False
[sIM]
SYSCLOCK=1
[sTARTUP]
DEMO=0
SHOW_OPENING_SCREEN=1
STARTUP_DEMO=
LoadWindow=1
[FACILITIES]
COUNTRY=
STATE=
CITY=
GTL_BUTTON=4096
[Misc]
Com_Rate=7
[FlightPlanMap]
LineWidth=2
SHOW_AIRPORTS=1
SHOW_VORS=1
SHOW_NDBS=1
SHOW_APPROACHES=1
SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=1
SHOW_VICTOR=0
SHOW_JET=0
SHOW_AIRSPACE=1
SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1
SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=1
SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=1
SHOW_DATATAGS=1
SHOW_TERRAIN=1
show_waypoints=1
show_airways=1
show_markers=1
show_volume_boundaries=1
show_ac_twr=1
[RWW_WEATHER_MAP]
SHOW_AIRPORTS=0
SHOW_VORS=0
SHOW_NDBS=0
SHOW_APPROACHES=0
SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=0
SHOW_VICTOR=0
SHOW_JET=0
SHOW_AIRSPACE=0
SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1
SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=1
SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=1
SHOW_DATATAGS=1
SHOW_TERRAIN=1
[DISPLAY.Device.AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series.0.0]
Mode=1280x720x32
TriLinear=1
[MULTIPLAYER]
condAccoutPassword=0

I'm not sure whether this has anything to do with it, but you have multiple Display Device entries:

 

[DISPLAY.Device.AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series.0]
Mode=1920x1080x32
TriLinear=1                                                             somewhere in the middle of the FSX.cfg

 

and

 

[DISPLAY.Device.AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series.0.0]
Mode=1280x720x32
TriLinear=1                                                               at the very end.

 

Unless you have a multi-monitor setup, I doubt you should have two entries. Perhaps remove one of them (preferably the second one, as it has a lower resolution), or deactivate it by putting two slashes // in front of each of the three lines.

You could also back up the above file, remove it from its original directory and start FSX. It will build a new one, and you can see if that new configuration still shows that behavior - if it does, some tweak might be the culprit, so bring the tweaks back one by one to see which one it is.

FloG

 

Thank you for your reply.

 

I removed the double insert but it didn't make any difference, but I left it out anyway as I don't have double monitors.

 

I then tried FSX without the frame rate limiter activated and that too made no difference.

 

I then backed up the current tweaked cfg and then created a new one. Tested again without the limiter, and that also made no difference.

 

I did note that when in spot view, panning is all nice and smooth, but in locked spot view (which I prefer) that is when the panning is not so smooth. I'm not saying it jerks madly when panning round in outside view, it just isn't as smooth as spot view, which I know it should be.

 

 

Bit of a baffler this one.

Other tests to try:  test out other values for your Buffer Pools instead of = 0.   Default is 4 million;  go upwards from there up to 10 million.  Also, turn down autogen, traffic, clouds, etc (or, go to default values), and test these.   

 

Chris

Are you running your pan view via FSUIPC or just FSX?

Other tests to try: test out other values for your Buffer Pools instead of = 0. Default is 4 million; go upwards from there up to 10 million. Also, turn down autogen, traffic, clouds, etc (or, go to default values), and test these.

 

Chris

Thanks Chris. I will give it a go the next time I'm on the PC. But if I have already tried a brand new cfg file wouldn't that rule out the buffer pool numbers since I would have been using the default setting.

Are you running your pan view via FSUIPC or just FSX?

Just FSX

Chris

 

I tried adjusting the Buffer Pool values all the way up to 10 but it made no difference. You mentioned that default is 4 million. I looked at a default cfg file and I couldn't see Buffer Pool listed anywhere.

 

I didn't adjust any other settings that you mention as FSX was working fine on these settings.

 

As a test I installed FSX on my wife's laptop which has allot less spec than my PC and it worked fine, with panning in outside view working as it should, fast and smooth.

 

I hate to admit defeat, but unless someone can help me out and come up with a solution I fear it may come to the dreaded reinstall. It's not so much reinstalling FSX that I mind, it's all the add on's that are a pain and time consuming.

 

I've just a suspicion that it's something to do with the frame rate limiter. Even though I'm not activating it to start FSX for test purposes I feel it is still causing the problem. I may be wrong.

Deleted.

 

 

Sorry, ignore what I sent.

 

gb.

Chris

 

Just to make doubly sure I did set everything back to default, but it made no difference.

 

 

Angels40, on 12 Jan 2014 - 06:19 AM, said:
Other tests to try: test out other values for your Buffer Pools instead of = 0. Default is 4 million; go upwards from there up to 10 million. Also, turn down autogen, traffic, clouds, etc (or, go to default values), and test these.

Chris
Thanks Chris. I will give it a go the next time I'm on the PC. But if I have already tried a brand new cfg file wouldn't that rule out the buffer pool numbers since I would have been using the default setting.

 

Buffer Pools are not in the cfg by default.   If changes are to be made, then a separate entry has to be made (as you have done in your cfg;  though not sure whether 'Poolsize=0' is correct, or should it be 'UsePools=0 or Bufferpools=0.)   Poolsize=n is used when a number (not 0 or 1) is given.   I stand corrected on that.   When you installed FSX on your wife's laptop, did you install all your addons as well?  If not, then try running FSX without the addons on your computer and see whether there is any improvement.

 

If the above fails, you could try locking your frames in FSX to 25.   Anyway, worth trying these options before the dreaded re-install!!

 

Chris

Don't mention that dreaded word 'reinstall' Chris. It sends a shudder down my spine

 

No. I didn't put any add on's on my wife's laptop. The only add on's I have are a couple of airports and GSX ground services, which have never given any trouble. Apart from them the only other add on's if you can call them that are just aircraft textures.

 

Frame rate has never been a problem. Flying in FSX is smooth, it's the outside panning that is the bug bear. But I'll give your suggestion a go.

 

It's probably something silly somewhere that's causing it. But as usual it's finding the blighter.

 

Oh well, onwards and upwards. But I feel hand on heart that I will end up doing the inevitable :(

 

 

I'll keep you informed.

 

 

Thanks

 

 

Steve

Hi Steve,

 

There are still many other tweaks around that you can try, including the AVSIM Basic Config. Guide, so you may want to consider all options before a reinstall.  You may even find that after a reinstall, things haven't changed much!  And that could be devastating.  I would leave off a reinstall till all hope is gone.  I even read somewhere that the View (pan) Hat Switch setting in your Settings - Controls, must be set to Repeat with slider to full right.   But I suppose yours reflects this.

 

At which stage do you get your panning stutters:  after first loading the flight, midway, or towards the end of the flight?   I sometimes get a massive frame rate drop only on short final and am still working on this problem.  The only (temporary) solution I've found, is to save the flight, exit FSX completely, reload the flight and continue on final approach.  Not the ideal way, but as you know it's very difficult doing a precision approach with frames going into the single digits.  Doing a reload of the Sim, brings the frames back to 30.  So you could even try saving the flight when the stutters start, then reloading it, to see whether there is any difference to panning problem.

 

All the best,

Chris