I have started to try out the Realair amphibian Scout. I can't takeoff from water. Problems that occures areThe plane does not gain enough speed (pitches up).It pitches up and the stall warning sounds and the speeddoes not increase more. Pitching down didn't help me.The plane is very prone to tilt on its side. It's very difficult to go straight on the water.In the few occasions where I did takeoff the plane immidiately stalled afterwards and crashed.The taildragger Scout does not give me these problems even though it's more tricky than a C172.

I also fly the amphibian Scout. Did you already try to put the rudder up or down (rightside of the panel)? Or use a notch of flap? The amphibian is heavier than the taildragger, so VS is relatively low (look at the numbers in the manual). I encountered comparable difficulties when trying to take off from Last Chance Lake (Misty Fjords) at some 2500 feet or so. I succeeded after several attempts (with different flaps, VS and even fuel mix). Good luck.Herrie

>I also fly the amphibian Scout. Did you already try to put>the rudder up or down (rightside of the panel)? The rudder was up according ti the manualinstructions.>Or use a notch>of flap? The amphibian is heavier than the taildragger, so VSNo flaps was used. I will try that.>is relatively low (look at the numbers in the manual). I>encountered comparable difficulties when trying to take off>from Last Chance Lake (Misty Fjords) at some 2500 feet or so.>I succeeded after several attempts (with different flaps, VS>and even fuel mix). >So flying amphibians is more difficult in FS. Is it also so in the real world?

I would not know really, I am just a simmer.Herrie

Flaps should not be necessary for the Scout. I have no trouble taking mine off, keeping the plane straight with the water rudder until you hit about 25 knots and raise the water rudder since the regular rudder should handle it then. Make sure you are taking off into the wind. Taking off in a floatplane with a crosswind will wind up in a chance for you to go swimming, usually. If you do a sort of soft field takeoff, keeping back pressure on the takeoff roll until the floats lift off the water, and then immediately reducing the back pressure for your best rate of climb, you should be fine.

Bob, since you seem to know a lot more about this than me, have you ever tried to take off from Last Chance lake with an amphibian Scout on its wheels? It took me several attemps and I am not sure how I finally did it. Is your above description of the take off procedure also correct for this situation?Herrie

Depending on the float type and the conditions water takeoffs often require getting the aircraft pitched up and on the back part of the floats (this is called "The Step"

>Depending on the float type and the conditions water takeoffs>often require getting the aircraft pitched up and on the back>part of the floats (this is called "The Step"

>Bob, >>since you seem to know a lot more about this than me, have you>ever tried to take off from Last Chance lake with an amphibian>Scout on its wheels? It took me several attemps and I am not>sure how I finally did it. Is your above description of the>take off procedure also correct for this situation?>>HerrieI am not sure what Last Chance Lake looks like, cause I am at work and can't remember, but I assume that you mean the runway is very short. In the case you rotate at the best "angle" of climb speed ( rather than best rate) and hold the speed right there with pitch, until you clear all obstacles. I can't remember what best angle is for the Scout, but it should be in the specs in the aircraft folder, someplace.

Please correct me if wrong - Don't some amphib aircraft (lower powered) require aileron to get one of the floats out of the water first to reduce friction by half? Regards,Roman

>Depending on the float type and the conditions water takeoffs>often require getting the aircraft pitched up and on the back>part of the floats (this is called "The Step"

Yeah at times in particular with glassy water and aircraft with straight floats you can break one float out first to make things easier. There are all kinds of little tricks and I am still just learning them. I am playing around a little in a 180 this month. I mostly fly from pavement so I am not a great source for float flying info.