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Buildings disappear then reappear at some default airports

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Just started recently. Will be taxiing at an airport and from the virtual cockpit some buildings disappear then later reappear. Have only noticed this at default airports so far. If I switch to external views the buildings are always there. Only seems to affect views from the VC. I have all my Scenery Display sliders to the far right except Mesh Resolution, which I have set to 2M, and Water Effects set to 2.x Low.  Airplane model I have noticed this in is the RealAir TDv2.

Frank Patton
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; 
NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
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Did you include your Scenery Complexity slider maxed out also?

Charlie Aron

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Did you include your Scenery Complexity slider maxed out also?

 

Yes.

Frank Patton
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; 
NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
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"I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere

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Here are my slider settings and below you can see the difference between the VC and the outside views.

ScenerySettings-L.jpg


KBMG-VC-L.jpg

KBMG-out-L.jpg

Frank Patton
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; 
NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126
                       
"I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere

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Interesting shot for comparison.  What airport are you at?  I seem to remember an opposite effect

 

where sitting in the cockpit all buildings looked good, then going to external view and changing the

 

angle made them disappear.

Charlie Aron

AVSIM Board of Directors-ADMIN/Moderator-Registrar

Just going to run a Chromebook and not upgrade to a Windows computer. Too many problems with the new Sims! 😱
Trying to keep peace and harmony and the will of Landru on the site seems to be a full time job!

                          images (1) (1).jpeg

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Those particular shots are from KBMG - Monroe County Airport, Bloomington, Indiana.  But I had the same happen yesterday at KAPA Denver Centennial.  I only seem to be experiencing it at default airports.  And fooling around today I found that buildings also disappear when panning around in external views, but only at some viewing angles with the Milviz Baron B55, but does not happen with the same external views/panning with the RealAir Turbine Duke v2.  Strange!

 

I am using Megascenery in both areas. Ultrares Indianapolis over MSE2 Indiana (though I am not sure if KBMG is covered by Ultrares Indy), and Ultrares Denver over MSE2 Colorado. Wonder if those are affecting default scenery elements.

 

I flew into LatinVFR's payware KSNA - Orange County/JohnWayne, California and nothing was disappearing and reappearing.

Frank Patton
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; 
NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126
                       
"I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere

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I just tried KBMG from the same spot you tried in the default Baron.  All views were OK.  I suspect, as you do,  that

 

there is interference from the Megascenery packages.

Charlie Aron

AVSIM Board of Directors-ADMIN/Moderator-Registrar

Just going to run a Chromebook and not upgrade to a Windows computer. Too many problems with the new Sims! 😱
Trying to keep peace and harmony and the will of Landru on the site seems to be a full time job!

                          images (1) (1).jpeg

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I just tried KBMG from the same spot you tried in the default Baron.  All views were OK.

 

It is happening mostly during taxi. Not when still.

Frank Patton
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; 
NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126
                       
"I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere

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I was taxiing around while looking.

Charlie Aron

AVSIM Board of Directors-ADMIN/Moderator-Registrar

Just going to run a Chromebook and not upgrade to a Windows computer. Too many problems with the new Sims! 😱
Trying to keep peace and harmony and the will of Landru on the site seems to be a full time job!

                          images (1) (1).jpeg

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On 1/8/2016 at 11:02 AM, fppilot said:

Just started recently. Will be taxiing at an airport and from the virtual cockpit some buildings disappear then later reappear. Have only noticed this at default airports so far. If I switch to external views the buildings are always there.

 

On 1/8/2016 at 5:02 PM, fppilot said:

Those particular shots are from KBMG - Monroe County Airport, Bloomington, Indiana.

 

On 1/8/2016 at 5:02 PM, fppilot said:

I am using Megascenery


Well, it has been well over two years since starting this topic and there was still no reasonable FSX scenery rendition to use for KBMG, Monroe County Airport, in Bloomington, Indiana, home of my alma mater Indiana University.  Turns out it was indeed an issue associated with use of photorealistic scenery with some default airports.  I sim fly in and out of KBMG constantly as I fantasy follow IU's great sports teams.  So about three weeks ago I took up the project myself, armed with an install of the SDK and ScruffyDucks's Airport Design Editor (SDE).  I had never attempted an airport scenery before.  (Screenshots below)

I learned during my hands-on  efforts that the issue is not specifically with FSX default airports, but instead the issue is with default scenery objects.  When I was in the early stages of this project I was using what I learned were default buildings and objects and they would also disappear in my scenery.  So I switched to buildings and objects from 3rd party libraries.  No more problem. It all stays in place!   I was eventually able to pare down the number of freeware objects libraries to two (2) that are widely available..

I uploaded the scenery last night and it is now available in the FSX Scenery library here on Avsim.   As explained in the readme file included with the scenery, it does require a pair of widely available freeware scenery object libraries, which are also here in the Avsim libraries.  There are links to them in the download page.

Compare to the two year old screen shots above to these and see what you think.

2018-5-8_16-42-44-758.jpg

2018-5-6_19-56-10-842.jpg

2018-5-6_19-56-32-277.jpg

Frank Patton
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; 
NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126
                       
"I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere

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