J.D. (at RD4 fourm) you might have the problem solved already as, YES, I turned off BOTH of the "chatters" as I did not understand the difference in them..., just that they were too load and I already had a good "chatter" program. I just knew they were TOO loud and I could NOT concentrate on over "duties" of the flight with the chatter so loud.In Jan 2005, I bought the FASTEST home computer money could buy , the top of the line ABS computer and since then I've had the best running Flight Sim and picture that I ever dreamed of...... until I decided to get the LDS-767 and the problems started. I could NOT fly an automatic route because I did NOT know how to program the FMC. I now almost know how . So if my 767 fly's in OWN particular FMC route, it is DIFFERENT from the FS2004 ATC and you know that will not work. Then I read that the program FSBuild would make an auto route and (almost) automatically install it into the 767's FMC and also into the RD4, which would solve all of my flight route problem's ; they BOTH would have the same dept, arrival and WAYPOINTS. With FSBuild I have just learned to "make" a flight plan and it downloads into the 767's NAVDATA/Flight plan folder and with one click on the "route" page of the FMC, the route is programmed into the 767's FMC. I just now don't have ANY ATC to use with it and that is unsatisfactory!I see I have two options:1. FSBUILD also states that it can export it's routes into FS2004, then the ATC would match the FMC route and I'd have the needed ATC. I don't know how to do this yet, or2. If you'd send me another KEY NUMBER, I'll RE-install RD4 on my flight computer and work with you to see if we could get it to work like it is supposed it.Thanks for your offer to help as I KNOW that I didn't give it a fair chance. My only reason I think was, trying the learn 3 COMPLICATED FlightSim programs at the same time: LDS-767, Radar Contact4 and FSBuild. It definably put me OVER my patience level.The add-ons that I fly with are: FDC (vr 1.6), Active Sky 2004.5, FS Environment, a number of different MESH programs and a small little "chatter" program.... cant remember it's name, but it's something like ENCORE, encon or something that; starts with an "E" ( you add your own wave files it, control how often it plays,and control its volume. Thanks for your help, Jerry

Wait a sec.First you complained that RCv4 is rubbish and uninstalled the program and now, after more research (and reading the manuals, obviously) you find how that there is a steep learning curve involved? Not to be mean or hateful, but read the manuals first before you come to the conclusion that "it just doesn't work for you".EVERYTHING that you have mentioned is covered in the RCv4 documentation, including how to build a flight plan with FS Build, how to export it and how to import, use it with RCv4. Did you read it?Also, FMC programming is not easy (along with understanding all of the ATC rules) and, yes, it is a steep learning curve, but the LDS-767 has excellent manuals and tutorial that help you through the process. Sure, you'll have to dig through a couple of hundred pages of documentation. Noone said it was easy. ;-)Also, this is supposed to go into the "Radar Contact" forum, if you want a quick answer from JD.Good luck!Cheers,Pat

he replied personally to my email address, and posted it in the rc column.thanks jerry for coming back and making this post. a lot of users would have left the first post go unanswered, and possibly leave a bad perception in many people's minds.by correcting the record, i hope the perception can be corrected in those people's minds.jd

Maybe its my way of venting. Any way, I did say that it was probably 90% "OPERATOR" error, as it was. I explained about as good as I can in the above post.I'd sure be interested to learn how other people use the LDS 767, flying on a FMC route (not made in Fs2004), that does NOT use RD4. Since I did NOT give RD4 a fair shake, just why do people like it so much over the FS2004 ATC.....? I know it's not the sound of the voices?JD of RD4 was very, very nice and has offered to help me get RD4 up and running like it should. Then I can decided with of the two, RD4 or FS2004 ATC I like better. PS I did not like ASV as the clouds did NOT, repeat, NOT looks as good to me as they did with Active Sky 2004.5 ( and FS Environment). I am 100% happy with my weather and I don't need any more weather program. ( I did buy ASV and even down loaded AS6) but I will not be install them. Thanks for you post.jerrycwo4

it's rc4 not rd4and www.jdtllc.com home page has a whole list of things that we do, that ms atc doesn't do.jd

AND - as far as ASV goes, they ALSO have a forum here on Avsim and would be more than helpful in getting you squared away, even given your apparent dislike for spending time learning program operation. I was a pikot IRL, and IMHO, the cloud depiction in ASV6 is as breathtaking as in real life. If you don't like the clouds, they either you've never seen them in real life OR you don't have things set correctly. My guess would be the latter.IF and I say again, IF - you take the time to learn how to install and operate your add-ons and flight simulator, you will have a most enjoyable experience.Relax, learn and enjoy!VicVisit the Virtual Pilot's Centerwww.flightadventures.comhttp://sales.hifisim.com/pub-download/asv6-banner-proud.jpghttp://www.jdtllc.com/images/rcv4bannersupporter.jpg