June 18, 20178 yr I flew the NGX into EDDF this morning on the ILS Z Rwy 25. My Navigraph and Navigraph charts are up to date. The approach on the plate showed a long, even downwind with a squared off base to final. In the FMS it was a lot different with a completely different shape and completely different fixes. I'm not at my sim so I can't provide a screenshot, unfortunately. Is anyone else seeing this? Gregg Seipp "A good landing is when you can walk away from the airplane. A great landing is when you can reuse it." i9 64GB RAM, GTX-5090
June 18, 20178 yr Hi, Which STAR did you select? If you selected a conventionnelle STAR ending at the IAF MTR or CHA, then they are followed by "short" ILS Z 25L/ILS Z 25R/ILS 25. The "square-shape" procedures are RNAV transitions ROLLIS 25N/S, KERAX 25N/S and PSA 25N/S which follow the STAR RNAV leading to the these waypoints. I found the Lido a bit confusing at first with the different procedures superposed but once you have done several approaches you eventually get used with it. Romain Roux Avec l'avion, nous avons inventé la ligne droite. St Exupéry, Terre des hommes.
June 18, 20178 yr Author 1 hour ago, Budbud said: Which STAR did you select? If you selected a conventionnelle STAR ending at the IAF MTR or CHA, then they are followed by "short" ILS Z 25L/ILS Z 25R/ILS 25. The "square-shape" procedures are RNAV transitions ROLLIS 25N/S, KERAX 25N/S and PSA 25N/S which follow the STAR RNAV leading to the these waypoints. I found the Lido a bit confusing at first with the different procedures superposed but once you have done several approaches you eventually get used with it. I think I get your point. I was flying the UNOK2B which ends at CHA. Looks like it does turn to a short ILS. So, on the ILS Z 25L it appears there's a built-in set of STARs?...that feeds into the square ILZ Z 25L approach? I'll have to look for that in the FMS. Gregg Seipp "A good landing is when you can walk away from the airplane. A great landing is when you can reuse it." i9 64GB RAM, GTX-5090
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