Gregg_Seipp

I haven't tried XP11 (though I've been thinking about it). I wouldn't be surprised to see PMDG make a modern airliner for XPlane. There are some nice things about it and there are a fair amount of folks that use both sims.

Good read. I still wonder if the passenger queen, or something much like it, will come back. It is one of the few planes that has a mystique about flying on it.

Not sure that matters unless there's special X-Plane logic for vectoring.

Agreed, though, I hope the solution is that you always fly the entire STAR. Aircraft do get vectored and that's realistic. What he needs to do is do some kind of calculation as to what a reasonable descent rate is and have the software plan accordingly. Controllers have a pretty good sense for this.

Isn't that how they, generally, do it at busy US airports? I mean, you usually fly part of the STAR but, at some point, you're vectored off the STAR for sequencing. The trick for the arrival controllers is that they have to consider what is a plausible descent rate for the type of aircraft given how much it shortens the route. The pilot can only do so much. Gregg

This is true...even for most single engines. The Malibu's have great side views, though. I do tend towards twins more since a fair amount of my flying is over open water.

Good points. I think I have a common trait of getting something that I think, maybe, I might like only to find that, later, I really wouldn't. That leads to a lot of hangar queens, of course. I tend to like fast but very common GA type airplanes...ones you'd take your family in or to take small loads of cargo in, especially to needy places...things I could imagine liking to do. Another thing I like to do is find YouTube videos of people flying the RW planes. You can garner quite a bit of RW knowledge by watching them. You're more apt to find the more common airplanes on YouTube. (I learned a vast amount of information about flying a Citation Mustang there and, lord knows, with Steveo cranking out videos, there's a lot available about the TBM). I love these people :). So, yeah, the PC-12 should be a good fit since it fits all of those criteria. The E1000 might fit the bill except for its unusual avionics package (again, why did they opt for that package instead of the G1000 the airplane comes with? Strange.) The Malibu Mirage (which has an XP10 version available, the Meridian, Cheyenne or Conquest would also work. Perhaps one of the King Airs. One point about all GA airplanes...the autopilot. In P3D, for GA, they're rarely close and yet they're so core for flying the plane (many of them do a fairly poor job flying an ILS and will do a fairly good job of trying to kill the passengers). Marshall Arbitman did this excellent overview of the autopilot of the X-Plane PC-12 showing what's right and wrong. At least the video sets your expectations and he's opened up a good conversation which should be had for, not just the PC-12, but for all new airplanes because of how, often, bad they can be. It should also be part of the more solid reviews after looks, power, and hand flying. Point is, I'd be keenly interested in airplanes that got that aspect right or, at least, close to right. (One of the many things I already like about X-Plane is that it has a GNS530 and G1000 built in, enabling airplanes to have higher quality systems than I have been generally getting. This means that devs can, potentially, spend far less time developing complex avionics and more time on other crucial bits like the autopilot.) Gregg

I've been getting this as well and repeatedly this morning on both Chrome and Firefox.

Thanks for the replies guys. I do have the PC12 in P3D though I only flew it twice due to nonworking switches and an unrealistic engine model...ITT going down with altitude if I recall. I *would* like to see how the PA42 or the C441 do in X-Plane. Aerobask does look intriguing. Also, there are two Mooneys...Alabeo which gets good reviews and the prerelease Advanced Flight Modelling which comes with a steam Ovation 2 and a G1000 Ovation 3. Curious if anyone's tried either.

All I can say is welcome back and I hope you're well. I'll be looking forward to new programs. Gregg

Hi Lenny, How are Carenado on X-Plane? They've been hit and miss on P3D...mostly miss and I've learned to just give them a pass over time. E.g. they never could get a handle on how to implement a turboprop on P3D. Could be a different story on X-Plane since they have a different turboprop modelling and much of the avionics are already part of the sim.

Thanks. These are great looking aircraft (including the 550). The thing I'm puzzled about is the avionics. The real E1000 seems to come with a G1000. The 550 also seems to come with a different set of avionics than the sim version. Am I missing something? Gregg

Hi all, I'm thinking of getting X-Plane and am wondering what aircraft are good. I'm probably going to have questions about the other types but, for now, I'm thinking about faster GA. I know there's a new Mooney (woot!) in early-release and a TBM950 coming (double woot!) Both of these look good! What else is out there? Thanks in advance. Gregg

Glad you're back, Ben! I don't see your new sticky?

Yeah, having set aside simming, I've spent more time surfing YouTube videos of the various sims as a way of keeping up with what's happening and taking a more objective look. X-Plane looks much more impressive than it did last time I tried it (about 15 years ago). Also, it seems that study-level GA planes are getting some good attention (as are some very high-quality commercial). The lighting, reflections, textures and sloped runways look amazing and the fact that it comes with a very nice implementation of a G1000 is a plus. I'm keeping my P3D setup, though (a lot of investment there). Gregg