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Some specific question about the out of memory problem

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After using FS9 for several years I have now suddenly started to get the nasty message 'Your computer has run out of available memory'. It takes about 30 - 60 minutees before it happens and as far as I can remember it didn't start after installing a new addon. After trying several things and searched this forum I have some specific questions1) Can I safely assume that this is a FS9.1 error? I got 1 Gb RAM and more than 30 Gb harddrive space.2) If so must it be a problem with a addon scenery and can I pinpoint it by disabling them one after one?3)After running a program called Flightsim manager and have search landclass files I get an option to relocate files. What makes me hesitant is that the files found are my commercial addon sceneries Megascenery / city titles and Misty Fjords. They have worked without problem before (correctly installed). Can I really safely select the relocate option here?4)How can I find out if I have a duplicate AFCAD file and which to remove?This problem started when doing tutorial flight 003 with LD767 together with radarcontact. But it didn't occur the first time I did it without weather and RC4.Finally what can I do more?

>After using FS9 for several years I have now suddenly started>to get the nasty message 'Your computer has run out of>available memory'. It takes about 30 - 60 minutees before it>happens and as far as I can remember it didn't start after>installing a new addon.-SNIP->Finally what can I do more? Have you recently re-ordered scenery in your addon scenery list? I got that out-of-memory error on two of my FS9 installs ( I have 4 ) the other day. After reading the forums for ideas the consensis seemed to point to a "bad bgl" or "duplictae afcads". Then I remember having had this error some time back and at that time I went through my scenery.cfg file with Notepad and "put things back in order". I had been moving various scenery items up and down in the list in the FS9 menu and the scenery.cfg file had several gaps in numbering and entries where the "Area.0xx" was different than the "Layer=xy" as a result. I went through and got all the "Area" numbers in sequence and chaged the "Layer" numbers to match. I cases where I wanted certain scenery files to reside in a particular order in the list, I insured this by moving them by hand. I've not had the out of memory error again ( continued a flight on which it occured plus others ) but then I haven't done extensive tests to try to duplicate the conditions. Paul

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> Have you recently re-ordered scenery in your addon scenery>list?>Not reordered but redownloaded and reinstalled Scandinavian Airport Sweden 2. But I tried disabling this without success.> had several gaps in numbering and entries where the>"Area.0xx" was> different than the "Layer=xy" as a result.After quickly going through my scenery.cfg it seems that now all Area.0xx is in order and has the corresponding Layer=xx number.But that was not the case in the backup cfg file made before SCA 2 was installed.

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Hi,<<1) Can I safely assume that this is a FS9.1 error? I got 1 Gb RAM and more than 30 Gb harddrive space.>>With 1Gb RAM you should be fine. Sounds like a bad landclass file causing a 'leak' of memory.<<2) If so must it be a problem with a addon scenery and can I pinpoint it by disabling them one after one?>>That sounds a very sensible idea. Try flying the same route. You need to keep things as similar as posisble.I'll defer on No 3 to someone who knows more.<<4)How can I find out if I have a duplicate AFCAD file and which to remove?>>Download this file... http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=45600It identifies duplicate AFCADs. Once you've identified the dups make an informed decision based on which one has the more parking gates and custom gates for airlines.<>No-one to my knowledge has reported this kind of problem with RC4 so I tend to suspect 3rd party scenery especially if you have reported issues with landclass files. Hopefully a landclass expert can advise.Cheers,

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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><<2) If so must it be a problem with a addon scenery and can I>pinpoint it by disabling them one after one?>>>>That sounds a very sensible idea. Try flying the same route.>You need to keep things as similar as posisble.>Then only commercial addons remains (UT USA & Europe Megascenary SC NC PNW Megacity SF Dallas Forth Worth American Data and Misty Fjords) BTW I just did a flight in another part of the worls and another addon plane for more than an hour and no out of memory.

><<4)How can I find out if I have a duplicate AFCAD file and>which to remove?>>>>Download this file...>http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=45600>According to this program it seems that I don't have any duplicates. But one thing I don't understand it reports my EGLL AFCAD as disabled. I have installed a new AFCAD for EGLL since I otherwise can't find the gate to start the tutorial LDS001 from.

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I did suggest you keep things as similar as possible. Disable one scenery area and then fly the same route with the same aircraft at the same time of day. You changed several parameters and resolved the problem so you don't know which of the changes resolved the problem.Cheers,

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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The program gives you the option of renaming a BGL. Identify which one you don't want to use and rename the extension to BG# so FS9 doesn't pick it up.That is the only safe way of disabling an AFCAD. Deletion is an option but you can't reverse that action should you want to.Cheers,

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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>I did suggest you keep things as similar as possible. Disable>one scenery area and then fly the same route with the same>aircraft at the same time of day. You changed several>parameters and resolved the problem so you don't know which of>the changes resolved the problem.>If the problem is one of these addons I would find it very strange if it was a scenery in America since the flight is in Europe, or?Also I think I should mention that I have a lot of Project AI installed. Could that cause this memory leak?

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It's unlikely that US scenery would cause a problem when flying in Europe but any programmer will tell you that when you're trying to debug a program you only change one thing at a time. If you change two and the problem goes away how will you know what resolved it? It is tedious but that comes with the territory I'm afraid.I don't know enough about Ai aircraft to know if that could cause a problem but I would doubt it. Scenery and faulty landclass textures are known to be a problem so look at your 3rd party scenery.Cheers,

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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>It's unlikely that US scenery would cause a problem when>flying in Europe but any programmer will tell you that when>you're trying to debug a program you only change one thing at>a time. If you change two and the problem goes away how will>you know what resolved it? It is tedious but that comes with>the territory I'm afraid.>>I don't know enough about Ai aircraft to know if that could>cause a problem but I would doubt it. Scenery and faulty>landclass textures are known to be a problem so look at your>3rd party scenery.>That seems correct since I disabled my UT Europe and some landclass in that group. And the out of memory event never occured when I did the same flight. But of course the world outside looked much worse without UT Europe. As far as I now UT Europe works for others. So why not me? Of course I wan't to UT Europe enabled. I have paid for it.

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Hi,Assuming you have the latest version of UT Europe - 1.01 - then all I can suggest is you visit the UT Forum here and post your findings. I don't get the out of memory problem. They are very helpful. www.simforums.com/forums/forum_topics.asp?FID=19&PN=1Try disabling "Add Industrial/Commercial Landclass" which was known to cause a problem.Cheers,

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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>Hi,>>Assuming you have the latest version of UT Europe - 1.01 ->then all I can suggest is you visit the UT Forum here and post>your findings. I don't get the out of memory problem. They are>very helpful.>www.simforums.com/forums/forum_topics.asp?FID=19&PN=1>>Try disabling "Add Industrial/Commercial Landclass" which was>known to cause a problem.>Yes that was one of the items I disabled. What do I lose here?Shouldn't an reinstall fix this?

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I really don't know a great deal about UT. As I suggested earlier your best bet is to ask the question on the UT forum.Cheers,

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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