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Lost center communication

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I'm still in the trial phase, so it might be an user error. 

I fly the attached route from EKCH to EDDH. Departure is fine and while at Copenhagen center I'm directed to MIC. That's it. I'm not (as I would expect) handed over to Bremen Center and I receive no further instruction from ATC. I try to contact EHHD Tower and get referred to Bremen center who tells me to do the expected RNAV approach to EDDH. But I would expected to be told (by Copenhagen) to contact Bremen and I expected more guidance from ATC during START/Approach. Am I doing something wrong. .     

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<SerializableFltPlan xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance">
  <SerializedSIDPlan>
    <AirportIdentifier>EKCH</AirportIdentifier>
    <Name>KOPE1E</Name>
    <RunwayName>RW04L</RunwayName>
    <EnrouteTransitionName>KOPEX</EnrouteTransitionName>
    <RunwayTransitionSIDId>0</RunwayTransitionSIDId>
    <CommonRouteSIDId>3304</CommonRouteSIDId>
    <EnrouteTransitionSIDId>0</EnrouteTransitionSIDId>
    <AltitudeConstrainedWaypoints />
    <AboveAltitudeConstrainedWaypoints />
    <AtOrAboveAltitudeConstrainedWaypoints />
    <AtOrBelowAltitudeConstrainedWaypoints />
    <AtOrBelowAltitudeConstrainedWaypointIdentifiers />
    <AtOrBelowAltitudeConstraints />
  </SerializedSIDPlan>
  <SerializedAPPRPlan>
    <AirportIdentifier>EDDH</AirportIdentifier>
    <Name>R33</Name>
    <Type>RNAV</Type>
    <RunwayName>RW33</RunwayName>
    <ApproachTransitionName />
    <AltitudeConstrainedWaypoints />
    <AtOrAboveAltitudeConstrainedWaypoints />
    <AtOrBelowAltitudeConstrainedWaypoints />
    <AltitudeConstraints />
  </SerializedAPPRPlan>
  <DepartureAirportICAOCode>EKCH</DepartureAirportICAOCode>
  <DestinationAirportICAOCode>EDDH</DestinationAirportICAOCode>
  <CruiseAltitude>18000</CruiseAltitude>
  <DescentRate>1200</DescentRate>
  <TODDistance>60.92717</TODDistance>
  <ActiveRouteWpts>
    <FPWpt>
      <TrackCalculated>true</TrackCalculated>
      <TrackDistanceCalculated>true</TrackDistanceCalculated>
      <TagType>VOR</TagType>
      <TagId>571</TagId>
      <Type>VOR</Type>
      <OwnerType>Route</OwnerType>
      <Identifier>KAS</Identifier>
      <Name>KASTRUP COPENHAGEN</Name>
      <Via>Direct</Via>
      <Position>
        <Latitude>55.59052</Latitude>
        <Longitude>12.6136026</Longitude>
      </Position>
      <Passed>false</Passed>
      <Freq>112.5</Freq>
      <AltitudeConstraint>NoRestriction</AltitudeConstraint>
      <NavFix_Id xsi:nil="true" />
      <TargetAltitudeCalculated>false</TargetAltitudeCalculated>
      <FirstAltitude xsi:nil="true" />
      <SecondAltitude xsi:nil="true" />
      <ManualTermination>false</ManualTermination>
      <MaxElevation>0</MaxElevation>
      <TargetAltitude>18000</TargetAltitude>
      <SpeedConstraint>NoRestriction</SpeedConstraint>
      <FirstSpeed xsi:nil="true" />
      <SecondSpeed xsi:nil="true" />
      <TargetSpeed>250</TargetSpeed>
      <TargetSpeedCalculated>true</TargetSpeedCalculated>
      <Track>217</Track>
      <TrackDistance>2.18278623</TrackDistance>
      <TrackETE />
      <MagVar>3.7000000476837158</MagVar>
    </FPWpt>
    <FPWpt>
      <TrackCalculated>true</TrackCalculated>
      <TrackDistanceCalculated>true</TrackDistanceCalculated>
      <TagType>VOR</TagType>
      <TagId>380</TagId>
      <Type>VOR</Type>
      <OwnerType>Route</OwnerType>
      <Identifier>MIC</Identifier>
      <Name>MICHAELSDORF</Name>
      <Via>Direct</Via>
      <Position>
        <Latitude>54.30546</Latitude>
        <Longitude>11.0051861</Longitude>
      </Position>
      <Passed>false</Passed>
      <Freq>112.2</Freq>
      <AltitudeConstraint>NoRestriction</AltitudeConstraint>
      <NavFix_Id>194723</NavFix_Id>
      <TargetAltitudeCalculated>true</TargetAltitudeCalculated>
      <FirstAltitude xsi:nil="true" />
      <SecondAltitude xsi:nil="true" />
      <ManualTermination>false</ManualTermination>
      <MaxElevation>200</MaxElevation>
      <TargetAltitude>18000</TargetAltitude>
      <SpeedConstraint>NoRestriction</SpeedConstraint>
      <FirstSpeed xsi:nil="true" />
      <SecondSpeed xsi:nil="true" />
      <TargetSpeed>250</TargetSpeed>
      <TargetSpeedCalculated>true</TargetSpeedCalculated>
      <Track>199</Track>
      <TrackDistance>43.0014877</TrackDistance>
      <TrackETE />
      <MagVar>3.0999999046325684</MagVar>
    </FPWpt>
    <FPWpt>
      <TrackCalculated>true</TrackCalculated>
      <TrackDistanceCalculated>true</TrackDistanceCalculated>
      <TagType>VOR</TagType>
      <TagId>374</TagId>
      <Type>VOR</Type>
      <OwnerType>Route</OwnerType>
      <Identifier>LUB</Identifier>
      <Name>LUEBECK</Name>
      <Via>Direct</Via>
      <Position>
        <Latitude>53.9407425</Latitude>
        <Longitude>10.6677856</Longitude>
      </Position>
      <Passed>false</Passed>
      <Freq>110.6</Freq>
      <AltitudeConstraint>NoRestriction</AltitudeConstraint>
      <NavFix_Id xsi:nil="true" />
      <TargetAltitudeCalculated>true</TargetAltitudeCalculated>
      <FirstAltitude xsi:nil="true" />
      <SecondAltitude xsi:nil="true" />
      <ManualTermination>false</ManualTermination>
      <MaxElevation>200</MaxElevation>
      <TargetAltitude>13000</TargetAltitude>
      <SpeedConstraint>NoRestriction</SpeedConstraint>
      <FirstSpeed xsi:nil="true" />
      <SecondSpeed xsi:nil="true" />
      <TargetSpeed>250</TargetSpeed>
      <TargetSpeedCalculated>true</TargetSpeedCalculated>
      <Track>205</Track>
      <TrackDistance>17.361393</TrackDistance>
      <TrackETE />
      <MagVar>3</MagVar>
    </FPWpt>
    <FPWpt>
      <TrackCalculated>true</TrackCalculated>
      <TrackDistanceCalculated>true</TrackDistanceCalculated>
      <TagType>VOR</TagType>
      <TagId>348</TagId>
      <Type>VOR</Type>
      <OwnerType>Route</OwnerType>
      <Identifier>HAM</Identifier>
      <Name>HAMBURG</Name>
      <Via>Direct</Via>
      <Position>
        <Latitude>53.6855736</Latitude>
        <Longitude>10.2049971</Longitude>
      </Position>
      <Passed>false</Passed>
      <Freq>113.1</Freq>
      <AltitudeConstraint>NoRestriction</AltitudeConstraint>
      <NavFix_Id xsi:nil="true" />
      <TargetAltitudeCalculated>true</TargetAltitudeCalculated>
      <FirstAltitude xsi:nil="true" />
      <SecondAltitude xsi:nil="true" />
      <ManualTermination>false</ManualTermination>
      <MaxElevation>200</MaxElevation>
      <TargetAltitude>6500</TargetAltitude>
      <SpeedConstraint>NoRestriction</SpeedConstraint>
      <FirstSpeed xsi:nil="true" />
      <SecondSpeed xsi:nil="true" />
      <TargetSpeed>250</TargetSpeed>
      <TargetSpeedCalculated>true</TargetSpeedCalculated>
      <Track>224</Track>
      <TrackDistance>22.4315014</TrackDistance>
      <TrackETE />
      <MagVar>2.7999999523162842</MagVar>
    </FPWpt>
  </ActiveRouteWpts>
  <PlanETESeconds>2824.3684608</PlanETESeconds>
  <PlanGrndSpeed>250</PlanGrndSpeed>
  <PlanDistance>196.136719</PlanDistance>
  <Name>F:\Users\FlightSim\Documents\EKCH - EDDH</Name>
  <Type>IFR</Type>
</SerializableFltPlan>

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Please email me ([email protected]) the full trace log located at:

C:\Users\<UserName>\AppData\Roaming\P2A_200\Logs

where <UserName> is your PC user name

A new one is created each time you start Pilot2ATC, so if you take the most recent one when you have the error, you should have the correct one.

Thanks,

Dave

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Mail shipped

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OK. I did it again and this time without any problem. I believe that that situation arise when the speech recognition fails. I have changed the microphone and upgraded to Windows 10 - together it has made a major difference.   

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