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Wrong hold short taxi point picked during taxi

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Hi Dave,

   This has been happening in several versions, i think i mentioned it before at some point.  I've attached a picture of what i'm talking about.  I landed at KROC, and was taxiing from the runway to the gate (gate taxi instructions work now, thanks).  Instructions were to taxi and hold short runway 10.  The hold short point it showed via the black triangle on the taxi route was on the wrong side of the runway though.  For this airport i imported the taxiways and modified them so there are hold short points on both sides of the runway.  Attached a link with that picture too.  Any idea why it's showing the wrong stop point?  Btw, i'm assuming that's what those black triangle things are supposed to indicate.  

taxi path and instructions: https://photos.app.goo.gl/YfKtwHzsGsL8bqzZ7

airport taxiways: https://photos.app.goo.gl/32NoqwjukzGn1YhA6   (i drew a red arrow on the taxiway i was on and circled the hold short point that it should have picked (presumably).

Joe

 

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Joe,

As I starting looking into this, I noticed there is a normal taxi point between the Hold Short taxi point and the runway.

I believe that is like the cause of this particular problem.  The Hold Short taxi point should be the last point before the taxi point that is on the runway.

If you want to save that airport taxiway file and send to me, I will test and see if that is the case.

Thanks,

Dave

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Ah!  Let me fix that on my side and i'll let you know if it fixes it.

Joe

 

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Hi Dave,

   That fixed it.  I will make the necessary adjustments to my other airports if necessary as well.  Thanks for the help.

Joe

 

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Dave,

  Are taxi paths like this (circled in red) an issue as well?  This is at KLGA.  The extra points there are for smoothness of the path i guess.  Does this interfere with taxi instructions/hold points since there are points between the hold short and the runway?  I think typically the taxi path pilot 2 atc provides stops at the departure runway and doesn't extend out on to the runway?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/AUJNTgZxMCMvv7Se7

Joe

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You would have to test to be sure, but since there's not a Hold Short on the other side of the Runway, you would probably get good instructions to this runway with the correct Hold Short point.  Getting the correct hold short point is key because that's what triggers transfer to Tower from Ground, for example.

 

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OK, thanks.

Yes, that's why i asked, cuz the atc transfers and clearance to cross wasn't happening.

Joe

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