December 5, 20187 yr 6 hours ago, ckyliu said: ...In the same vein, is runback icing from early/preventative use of thermal wing anti-ice really a thing? I thought runback was caused by specific types of precipitation such as SLD (super cooled large droplets) or simply severe icing conditions? Not in normal conditions. Reference what I said about the anti-ice systems on the Embraer. We'd fly with the systems activated for long periods of time without any "runback"; the theory behind thermal anti-icing systems is that the protected surface is warm enough to evaporate most moisture from the layer of air flowing over it. This could obviously be overcome by severe icing / super-cooled large droplet conditions, but that's not what the systems are designed for anyway. In normal icing conditions, runback is not really a thing. Andrew Crowley
December 5, 20187 yr @downscc in addition to the article link in my post you quoted, I found another article at https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2013/february/pilot/ice-bridging I haven't found any studies through Google, but there is an official NTSB bulletin on it https://www.ntsb.gov/safety/safety-alerts/Documents/SA_014.pdf I also found this mentioned in https://www.ntsb.gov/safety/safety-recs/recletters/A07_12_17.pdf which relates to (NTSB) investigation of Comair Flight 3272, EMB120RT N265CA, Monroe MI, USA, January 9,1997: Quote AC 25.1419-1A, “Certification of Transport Category Airplanes for Flight in Icing Conditions,” dated May 7, 2004, states that, although ice may not be completely shed by one cycle of the boots, the residual ice will usually be removed by subsequent cycles and does not act as a foundation for a bridge of ice to form. Further, information gathered at a 1997 Airplane Deice Boot Bridging Workshop, subsequent icing tunnel test s, and flight tests conducted as part of the Comair nvestigation revealed that ice bridging did not occur on modern airplanes, which are equipped with deice boots that quickly inflate and deflate. The icing tunnel tests also revealed that thin (1/4 inch or less), rough ice accumulations on the wing leading edge deice boot surfaces could be, depending on distribution, as aerodynamically detrimental to an airplane’s performance as larger ice accumulations. Edited December 5, 20187 yr by ckyliu ckyliu, proud supporter of ViaIntercity.com. i5 12400F, 32GB, RTX4070, more in "About me" on my profile.
December 21, 20187 yr Regarding Boeing not heating the whole wing... don't worry, we weren't using that part anyway. I guess. (You can imagine what the tail looked like). Andrew Crowley
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