Anyone here knows if the Garmin G1000 will be any good? I mean, will it be the same quality as the Reality XP products? Or will it be a very simplified version? (I suppose the latter, but hope for Reality XP quality of course! ;))

I've heard numbers being tossed around like 80% functionality or so. Hard to tell at this point until we have our hands on it. I do hope though that it will provide a stepping stone for 3rd party developers to more sophisticated functions of the G1000.

Is Reality XP developing a Garmin 1000? I didn't know.The only one I'm aware of is the Mindstar.http://www.mindstarprods.com/aviation/I am a little bit suspicious about the 80% functionality, maybe that means 80% of basic navigation functions. The G1000 is incredibly complex when you include the GFC700 autopilot, weather radar, TIS, TAWS, etc... and then consider that each G1000 is aircraft specific (speeds, engines...).I suspect the payware G1000's will still have a good market base with FSX.--M

>Anyone here knows if the Garmin G1000 will be any good? I>mean, will it be the same quality as the Reality XP products?>Or will it be a very simplified version? (I suppose the>latter, but hope for Reality XP quality of course! ;))It's not a 100% reproduction (why would we???) but it should still give you lots and lots of stuff to do. Similarly to the GPS500 in FS2004 we tried to pick the most common functions that *most* people would use *most* of the time.

> It's not a 100% reproduction (why would we???)It usually says "As Real As It Gets" on the box ;)

>> It's not a 100% reproduction (why would we???)>>It usually says "As Real As It Gets" on the box ;) And I live next to several restaurants claiming to have the "World's Best Pizza"! :)

Reminds me a good joke about these restaurants in the same street, all claiming "best in the city" "best in the country" "best in the worls": just go to the one that says: "best pizza in the street!":-)

Wouldn't happen to have XM weather would we?

Sure. You just have to pay $29 a month for the service.

Hmm, used most twice there...I can guess that we're in for another navigation tool that doesn't provide any upgradable facets (navdata to be specific). Better get that money ready for the third-party vendor.

haha. I support Sirius

Please don't go into the pizza business!

My guess is that the FS-X "G1000" will be an XML-based, approximate analog of the real unit, just as the "GPS500" was in FS2004. In fact, I would be amazed if it did not share some code with the GPS500. You will be able to do all of the basic things that you need to do for navigation, communication, and approaches. But, it will not be anywhere close to a page-for-page simulation of the real unit - nor would I expect it to be. As someone else said, the G1000 is quite complicated (especially when it comes to the MFD (right hand) display), and short of somehow hooking up to Garmin's PC-based simulator - which I don't expect will happen anytime soon - we won't be seeing a button-press-accurate simulation of the G1000, *ever*.So for pure flight simulation fans, it will be quite adequate. For those of us that want 98% accuracy, it ain't gonna happen, unless Garmin decides to play nice with one of the FS aftermarket add-on companies. Even then, it would require a *very* powerful system to run both FS-X and the Garmin sim on one processor, and in fact I would hope for an arrangement that runs the Garmin sim on another PC. (I say this based on trying, and failing, to run the Garmin G1000 simulator software on a 1.7gHz laptop with an NVidia graphics processor. It did run on my 3.4gHz desktop, but then it only simulates one of the two displays at a time.)We can always hope that Garmin will wake up to the possibilities, can't we?slight edit: of course all of the above is pure speculation, backed up by a couple posts here - I would love to be proven wrong!Dave Blevins

Dave, our guess would be about the same as your guess. Tried to run the G1000 Desktop Simulator and was appalled at the load placed on my system....Any third party developer wishing to utilize that trainer software with the sim running has a real challenge on their hands.:-)

>My guess is that the FS-X "G1000" will be an XML-based,>approximate analog of the real unit, just as the "GPS500" was>in FS2004. In fact, I would be amazed if it did not share some>code with the GPS500. You will be able to do all of the basic>things that you need to do for navigation, communication, and>approaches. But, it will not be anywhere close to a>page-for-page simulation of the real unit - nor would I expect>it to be. As someone else said, the G1000 is quite complicated>(especially when it comes to the MFD (right hand) display),>and short of somehow hooking up to Garmin's PC-based simulator>- which I don't expect will happen anytime soon - we won't be>seeing a button-press-accurate simulation of the G1000,>*ever*.>>So for pure flight simulation fans, it will be quite adequate.>For those of us that want 98% accuracy, it ain't gonna happen,>unless Garmin decides to play nice with one of the FS>aftermarket add-on companies. Even then, it would require a>*very* powerful system to run both FS-X and the Garmin sim on>one processor, and in fact I would hope for an arrangement>that runs the Garmin sim on another PC. (I say this based on>trying, and failing, to run the Garmin G1000 simulator>software on a 1.7gHz laptop with an NVidia graphics processor.>It did run on my 3.4gHz desktop, but then it only simulates>one of the two displays at a time.)>>We can always hope that Garmin will wake up to the>possibilities, can't we?>>slight edit: of course all of the above is pure speculation,>backed up by a couple posts here - I would love to be proven>wrong!>>Dave BlevinsI would like to think that what we could hope for is something made to work with *gasp* current hardware. As in up-to-date, not old news stuff. Up-to-date processors have more than one core. As in, two cpu's on one chip. So.. FSX would run on one of the cores while the heavy load of the G1000 software is put on the other core, thereby making use of your DualCore system and justifying the need to have the latest hardware to run the lastest software with the latest addons. Those with old news hardware(which would include me) need not apply. Unless!! you can make use of something such as WideFS(run the Garmin sim on another PC) as you already mentioned. But what if you don't have a second PC but do have a nice brand spanking new DualCore system? I know if it were me I would wonder why bother having the lastest and great hardware if I'm not going to be catered to? Really, I would think that DualCore folks might only need to do something as simple as use the 'Set Affinity' option in Task Manager to take advantage of such an addon if one gets made.I have loved having the Reality XP RXP530 GPS(hint hint for the FSX G1000 Jean Luc) ever since it was first made, and acutally I was the first to report a performance problem with using it on a HyperThreaded CPU chip(lastest and greatest hardware at that time). I didn't know at the time but it was due to the Garmin Trainer using 16-bit software in a 32-bit OS enviroment, WinXP. WinXP uses an emulator for legacy 16-bit apps and this caused problems running FS2004 and the Garmin Trainer on a Hyper-Threaded system as they were both competing for resources from the same CPU. The solution was to use the 'Set Affinity' option in Task Manager to command the 16-bit Garmin Trainer to run on the 'the other CPU' that FS2004 was not running on(in a HyperThreaded chip the 'other cpu' a psuedo cpu really. DualCore chips have true dual cpu's on one chip). Now Jean Luc(of Reality XP) has wrapped the 16-Bit Garmin Trainer into a 32-bit wrapper and it runs as if it's a 32-bit app, doing away with the neccessity to Set Affinity in order to get the proper performance. Now I don't have to bother with... run FS2004, load up a plane with the RXP530 installed into it, Alt-Tab to the desktop, Ctrl-Alt-Delete to pull up the Task Manager, Set Affinity of the Garmin Trainer to CPU 1(FS2004 runs on CPU 0). I just run FS2004 and use RXP530 equipped aircrafts as normal now.Regards,OneTinSoldier