This is probably a minor issue, but I've notice that FS04 doesn't show turbulence in the cockpit. In spot view I can see my place bouncing around. Is there a third party add-on I can get that would show this? Also, does anyone know if FSX does a better job?

Yes, ActiveCamera v2.1.www.anticyclone.be

Weird, I see my plane moving around from cockpit view all the time from it.

same here, I see myself bouncing around quite frequently from the cockpit, especially entering cloud. Although I use activesky im not sure if that has anything to do with it.

Are you referring to head latency?Without head latency it's impossible to percieve turbulence in the cockpit, you only notice a slight rocking motion. With aircraft like the RealAir Spitfire you do get a much better sense of turbulence because of head latency.You can also get head latency for any aircraft with Active Camera installed.FSX has built-in head latency as part of the engine, and it does a fantastic job of it imo. Much better than any other sim that I've seen before. Also, I'm convinced that turbulence is modelled a lot better in FSX than it is in FS9, based on my experiences with the demo.James

Nope, it has nothing to do with Active Sky.There is turbulance in FS9 in BOTH 2D and VC modes. Perhaps flyingpilot has accidentally checked the box in Options/Settings/Display/Weather which disables turbulance effects on aircraft.Now in FSX......it's whole different ballgame. They have modelled thermals and when you hit one, you'll know it. In fact, users of VCs may want to keep some Gravol handy (lol). When turbulance is encountered you will either get caught in an updraft which can propel you upward at 2000FPM (Baron) or a downdraft at 1500FPM. Sometimes you'll get an updraft followed by a downdraft not long after. In VC mode, your head will bob around (referred to as head latency) in response to the accompanying turbulance. It's quite realistic.For those who have the FilePlanet Beta you can enable a visual presentation of termals. Go to Options/Settings/Display/Weather and on the left side there is a small spinner window which contains 3 options, one of which enables the visualization.Hope this answers your questions.Cal

"Without head latency it's impossible to percieve turbulence in the cockpit, you only notice a slight rocking motion."I disagree. When I look out the front window (FS9) when there's lots of clouds around, I see a great deal more than a slight rocking motion, I see quite pronounced pitching & rolling and it shows on the instruments as well (VSI, ASI & HSI). FSX is somewhat more realistic but FS9 isn't all that bad. I've spent may hours flying over Canada's prairie provinces in real life, low and slow, and it's quite rare to have a calm day in summer. I've always thought FS9's turbulance effects compare quite favorably with the real thing. But, I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder.Cal

Actually you're right. I was more referring to seeing the vc moving in relation to the pilot's eye, which I think the OP was expecting to see.When there's heavy turbulence you do see quite a bit of rocking and pitching.James

For those who have the FilePlanet Beta you can enable a visual presentation of termals. Go to Options/Settings/Display/Weather and on the left side there is a small spinner window which contains 3 options, one of which enables the visualization.Yeah, also for those wondering what the difference between 'natural' and 'schematic' is:Natural = birds circling as in real life (very hard to find)Schematic = translucent green spirals (easy to find):)

Hi, I read this post and thought I'd test it out. If you make sure you are in the active wind layer (in the default FS9) and set up that layer with big turbulence you will definitely see movement. It's not head latency but it's still pretty effective!Andy.