October 13, 20205 yr I'm doing a short IFR flight in the Bonanza -- KBIL to Big Timber 6S0. I am approaching from the east via SUBKY and will use the RNAV RWY 6 approach. Do I need to enter the hold at ZELTI on the 263 leg that takes me around the 6364' peak, or can I just go direct ZELTI and make the turn to JUTIM. Just wondering what is the proper way to fly this approach. Thanks AMD 7900X | ASRock Steel Legend X670E | G.SKILL 32GB DDR5 6000 | MSI 6950XT | Noctua NH-D14 EVGA Super NOVA 850W | Cooler Master HAF932 | Hisense 43" 4K UHD | Win11
October 13, 20205 yr You fly the hold. The process used to be called a procedure turn. Its like a figure 8. As you reach ZELTI you will turn to the left to fly a diagonal leg across the holding pattern to between where you see 263° and 7 NM. You pick up that side of the hold and then execute the right turn on the hold around to the final approach course. Edited October 13, 20205 yr by fppilot Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
October 13, 20205 yr Author Thanks Frank, appreciate the clarification👍 AMD 7900X | ASRock Steel Legend X670E | G.SKILL 32GB DDR5 6000 | MSI 6950XT | Noctua NH-D14 EVGA Super NOVA 850W | Cooler Master HAF932 | Hisense 43" 4K UHD | Win11
October 13, 20205 yr This is an example of a HILO, Hold in Lieu Of Procedure Turn. If you are going to turn more than 90 degrees to the inbound course then a course reversal is appropriate. We used to use 70 degrees, but it seems with PBN under TERPS 90 degrees is the new threshold. Edited October 13, 20205 yr by KenG
October 13, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Dean19 said: Thanks Frank, appreciate the clarification👍 I have not done an AP hold yet in MFS 2020 with either the G series glass avionics or even with a GNS 530. Is it even in the current features of the default avionics? I do holds frequently in FSX SE with RXP GPS avionics. Edited October 13, 20205 yr by fppilot Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
October 13, 20205 yr Author 6 hours ago, fppilot said: I have not done an AP hold yet in MFS 2020 with either the G series glass avionics or even with a GNS 530. Is it even in the current features of the default avionics? I do holds frequently in FSX SE with RXP GPS avionics. I'm using the Navigraph beta with latest airac loaded into the sim. The MSFS flight planner lists the RNAV 06 approach but it does not show the hold on the map or as an option in any of the glass. Hopefully they'll implement holds in the future but I won't hold my breath. AMD 7900X | ASRock Steel Legend X670E | G.SKILL 32GB DDR5 6000 | MSI 6950XT | Noctua NH-D14 EVGA Super NOVA 850W | Cooler Master HAF932 | Hisense 43" 4K UHD | Win11
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