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A320X & Navigraph

By DylanC, in Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020)

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DylanC    181

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Just wanted to point out how fantastic it is to see how a thread can seemingly turn sour, but end on a great collaborative note.  Something we don't see much of lately.  Our hobby will undoubtedly be better because of it.

https://forum.navigraph.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=10830

 

 

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"The aircraft G-limits are only there in case there is another flight by that particular airplane. If subsequent flights do not appear likely, there are no G-limits."

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airlinejets    709

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It's nice to see that both Navigraph and FlybyWire are collaborating in bringing improvements to the A320.

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23 minutes ago, airlinejets said:

It's nice to see that both Navigraph and FlybyWire are collaborating in bringing improvements to the A320.

Agree.

Dylan Charles

"The aircraft G-limits are only there in case there is another flight by that particular airplane. If subsequent flights do not appear likely, there are no G-limits."

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airlinejets    709

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Just now, DylanC said:

Agree.

Dylan, here is a post from Matt that should interest everyone.

 

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At the end of the day we are all flight sim enthusiasts and it is a really small (growing) community, I think some people forget that 15 years down the road it will be us, navigraph and the neo guys (and all the other devs old and new) still around, still here trying to make the old sim stand the test of time. 

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DylanC    181

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26 minutes ago, airlinejets said:

Dylan, here is a post from Matt that should interest everyone.

 

@airlinejets Thanks for pointing me to that topic.  Great read and certainly encouraging.

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"The aircraft G-limits are only there in case there is another flight by that particular airplane. If subsequent flights do not appear likely, there are no G-limits."

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1 hour ago, DylanC said:

Just wanted to point out how fantastic it is to see how a thread can seemingly turn sour, but end on a great collaborative note.  Something we don't see much of lately.  Our hobby will undoubtedly be better because of it.

https://forum.navigraph.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=10830

 

 

Would love to read it, but you have to be a registered user to read forum posts?!  and there is no way to register, only login. Paying customers only, I suppose, which seems a bit draconian for a forum.

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6 minutes ago, Sigwolf said:

Would love to read it, but you have to be a registered user to read forum posts?!  and there is no way to register, only login. Paying customers only, I suppose, which seems a bit draconian for a forum.

Yeah, sorry about that.  Here's the main excerpt from the forum post:

 

Re: Warning for Navigraph beta with A320neo Mod ?

Post by Pleasure » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:06 pm

Hello,

my name is David "Pleasure" I am one of the Core Devs of the FlyByWire A32NX Project.

During the first weeks of the project, we received various reports of missing nav data (SID’s/STAR’S/Airways).

Due to these reports, we released a statement issuing that ‘custom liveries’ and ‘the Navigraph beta’ might have been leading to these issues.

While we have verified that certain liveries do actually cause issues, we have never confirmed that the Navigraph beta was causing this behaviour.

The statement will be removed and instead will be replaced with a statement which actually promotes the use of NavData from Navigraph as the data is more accurate and has more coverage. It will also be pointed out that the Navigraph NavData for MSFS is still in beta.

Many of us use Navigraph for NavData and we appreciate your service to the flight sim community very much, our intention was never to throw blame but to rather tell our users to remove all third party addons which might be intervening with the mod, which could have included the Navigraph beta, to be able to check if it was actually the mod that caused the bug/issue or some other third party. We do understand that while some data might be missing/not working and it is still a work in progress that when it is completed, will result in a great increase in the overall MSFS experience for us ‘simmers’ who like the maximum amount of realism which is what we are striving for here at FlyByWire

That is why we would love to work together with you at Navigraph and would love to invite you to our Discord or any other form of Communication you would prefer.

Regards,

Pleasure (3d Artist/Texture Artist FlyByWire)
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Re: Warning for Navigraph beta with A320neo Mod ?

Post by stephen » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:08 am

Hi David,

Many thanks for reaching out and for the clarifications.

We'd love to work with you too of course! Richard will be contacting you shortly.

Kind regards,

Stephen
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Re: Warning for Navigraph beta with A320neo Mod ?

Post by Raniel3 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:37 pm

Glad that got sorted out. I am sorry for the inconvenience I caused to both sides.
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Re: Warning for Navigraph beta with A320neo Mod ?

Post by Viper940 » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:04 am

Hi,

To @Pleasure and @Stephan. I am a recent customer of Navigraph. I, of course, also use (exclusively) The FlyByWire A32NX.

I can't express how glad I am to see @Pleasure reach out to you and the response from @Stephen. This IS how a company and a free mod community should behave - trying to help each other to the ultimate benefit of the users.

I am excited and will wait patiently for your cooperation to come to fruition. All the best to both of you and the people you represent. Thank you.


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Re: Warning for Navigraph beta with A320neo Mod ?

Post by Lothar Gentzsch » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:29 pm

I am pleased that this topic has taken a good turn and that we can now use the A320neo with NAVIGRAPH Navdata without stress. :D

Greetings
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Re: Warning for Navigraph beta with A320neo Mod ?

Post by Pleasure » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:36 am

Raniel3 wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:37 pm
Glad that got sorted out. I am sorry for the inconvenience I caused to both sides.
On the contrary. Because of the issue you posted we now can say that we started to form a good relationship with navigraph and hopefully will support eachother and with the help of navigraph include features like maybe displaying the airac cycle and maybe even charts inside the plane on the EFB for navigraph users in the future. Mind you that of course this is a goal that we have but are not sure how feasible it is yet. But we are in talks with navigraph and are making progress on being able to change the default a320 model. So stay tuned ! And thank you Raniel for actually making this even possible.

And also thanks to Richard who we are in contact with now and hopefully will make the sim enjoyable for everyone.
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Re: Warning for Navigraph beta with A320neo Mod ?

Post by wigerup » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:45 am

Can you pls specify what the problem is with A32nx 0.4.0 and Navigraph beta!!
I hav not have any issues so far, and I have planned a lot theese days.
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Re: Warning for Navigraph beta with A320neo Mod ?

Post by navdata » Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:06 am

Hi Bjorn,
since last week, we are intensively in contact with FBW - the data are working but in the past, specially as we started our beta, there were a lot of bugs, unknown situations in it, what crashed the sim and/or some mods or where the results were not so good as we expected (because we can also not test all scenarios). Most of these beginner issues were data-issues which we had fixed during the AIRAC cycle 2010, I guess after 12-13 data revisions. Now, the data are stable and of course usefully to fly with the FBW. I have also tested it and this mod, this freeware group, is a really step forward.

We have discovered a few ideas between FBW and us. The FBW guys are very taff and for a freeware team, they do a great job - we (as Navigraph) will support these guys where we can, to improve the default A320neo functionality. Now, we are on a good way to make all these successful - for FBW and for us ;-)
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