Skip to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

The AVSIM Community

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.

FSDT Geneva on a plateau - how to fix?

Featured Replies

  • Moderator

I have had FSDT Geneva for many years and whilst it integrates pretty well in P3Dv4.5 the airport is on a plateau compared to the surrounding area. The difference is just over 100ft.

I opened the AFCAD file using ADE but with the free version the airport altitude is not editable.

Is still a problem that could be fixed with the Pro Key version?

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

Ray,

I'm just a rank amateur when it comes to messing about with ADE so please forgive me if you've already covered this.

When you open the airport can you go to the tools drop down menu and select 'change airport reference data' where a revised altitude can be entered. In your example reduce the actual field elevation by 100 feet? You might have to draw a ground polygon around the airport and tag it with 'Flatten mask class map exclude autogen'. Then compile it, save it and use the generated ADEX bgl files rather than the original ones..

Good luck, sir! 🍻

Mark Robinson

Part-time Ferroequinologist

Author of FLIGHT: A near-future short story (ebook available on amazon)

I made the baby cry - A2A Simulations L-049 Constellation

Sky Simulations MD-11 V2.2 Pilot. The best "lite" MD-11 money can buy (well, it's not freeware!)

  • Author
  • Moderator

Hi Mark,

You clearly know more than me, thanks. But in the Airport Properties the altitude can’t be changed. That’s why I thought it would need the Pro Key version.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

  • Author
  • Moderator

Mark, ignore my last post. I didn't read your post properly. I have found the altitude field. It's 1410.991 whereas the surrounding area shows 1340 on the info top-left in the sim. I shall proceed carefully as the original remains untouched. Thanks!

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

  • Author
  • Moderator

I clearly haven't a clue what I'm doing. Despite following your instructions it now looks like this. Perhaps I should just stick with the original.

LSGG.jpg

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

  • Commercial Member
1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Mark, ignore my last post. I didn't read your post properly. I have found the altitude field. It's 1410.991 whereas the surrounding area shows 1340 on the info top-left in the sim. I shall proceed carefully as the original remains untouched. Thanks!

Correct altitude ( Navigraph Dec-19 charts ) for the airport is 1411 ft, so our scenery is correct.

What I can see in your screenshot, is airport objects that don't belong to our scenery mixed in so, perhaps you have a conflicting airport that, in addition to be conflicting, has the wrong altitude set as well.

The most common cause of conflicts are AFCAD files supplied with AI Traffic product, or perhaps another scenery for the airport you installed long ago and forgot about that.

  • Author
  • Moderator

Hi @virtuali, thanks for your post. I used Addon Organizer to generate a temporary scenery.cfg that includes all my scenery - addons and conventional - and scanned it with Simple Airport Scanner. There were two LSGG entries  - one being your original which I restored replacing mine - and one in Ultimate Terrain Europe X. I loaded the UT-X software and disabled LSGG.

After restarting P3D a new scenery index was generated but the plateau problem remains. This is the other scenery I have which may be responsible:-

  • Orbx FTX Global
  • FS  Global Ultimate
  • Ultimate Terrain X Europe

If I disable the Europe entry of FS  Global Ultimate the cliff disappears. See below. So it's this enhanced mesh that's causing the problem. Any ideas on how best to solve it?

LSGG_Cliff.jpg

LSGG_NoCliff.jpg

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

  • Author
  • Moderator

In the case containing the DVDs for FS Global there is one with a utility for flattening terrain around airports. I'd forgotten all about it.

I'm going to read the manual and attempt to create a file to overcome this problem at Geneva. More later...

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

  • Author
  • Moderator

Success! Using the Pilot's Aerodrome Flattening utility had a couple of issues as I bought it when FSX was around. But creating a folder for scenery.cfg sorted it and I added the entry manually to my scenery.cfg.

Result is a nicely blended airport perimeter with the surrounding terrain. First time I've done this and it's very easy to generate the file.

Umberto, the airport itself looks fine too. 👍👍

 

LSGG_Fixed.jpg

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

Excellent! Glad you found the solution, Ray! 🍻

Mark Robinson

Part-time Ferroequinologist

Author of FLIGHT: A near-future short story (ebook available on amazon)

I made the baby cry - A2A Simulations L-049 Constellation

Sky Simulations MD-11 V2.2 Pilot. The best "lite" MD-11 money can buy (well, it's not freeware!)

  • Author
  • Moderator

Thanks Mark. It's a really nice solution for something that's been a pain for years.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Account

Navigation

Search

Search

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.