We had a bits of discussion and a couple of posts, here, recently, about the BAe ATP. A discussion of BAe would not be complete without a reference to BAe Jetstream 41. It's worth noting, however, the (very different) roots of ATP and JS41, though both aircraft eventually got identified under the "BAe" umbrella.

The Jetstream had originated as the final notable design of Handley Page. After the dissolution of Handley Page, in 1970, the Jetstream line lived on, the design being purchased and produced by Scottish Aviation at Prestwick, Scotland. After Scottish Aviation merged into the newly formed (composite) entity, BAe, the Jetstream range (31/32/41) came to be called "BAe" Jetstream, but their roots really go back to the 1950s of Handley Page. And, likewise, the Avro 748 had come to be called HS 748 when Hawker Siddeley acquired Avro. Then Hawker Siddeley merged into the (same) newly formed BAe, and the HS 748 evolved into ATP (the BAe ATP was actually, as Chock had rightly pointed out, meant to be designated BAe Jetstream "61"). Anyway, the ATP's roots go back all the way to Avro.

In this post, for illustration, I've flown, the final variant (41) of the Jetstream line (JS41's further evolutions, JS - "51"/"61"/"71", though proposed, didn't come to (realistic) fruition...). JS41 is a smart looking (feederliner) small twin-turboprop. It flew, for the first time, on Sep 25, 1991, at Prestwick. It was the (last) completely new design from the British Aerospace factory at Prestwick that had originated with Scottish Aviation. We'd (earlier) noted that BAe ATP was pitted against ATR/Dash8, and, here, the BAe JS41, from the marketing perspective, was intended to compete directly with aircraft like the Saab 340, Embraer Brasilia, and the Dornier 328. For a bit of comparison fun, I've also included, below, in the same order, one sample each of these aircraft, (shown Dornier 228, instead of 328) - please see the first 3, on-the-ground, images. The JS41 line came to an end, in 1997, after 6 years of production, after 104 units were built.

Regarding the SIM aircraft, used, here, I'd (earlier) made a reference to PMDG BAe JS41. Though dated, it remains jewel of a SIM that is also an immensely enjoyable turboprop simulation, which needs no introduction. So, please find below, a set of (SIM) images (starting with the 4th image, below), of the BAe Jetstream 41, lifting off Prestwick, same place, where, 30 years ago, it had taken to the skies, for the first time. For livery, I've chosen the BAe JS41 Development/Test Airframe (G-4-036).

In this flight, I'm heading out, from Prestwick (EGPK) to Edinburgh (EGPH), on a (very) short ~50 nm flight. SimBrief yielded me a default route via two en-route waypoints (EGPK->16nm->FINEK->5nm->GOSAM->29nm->EGPH) - see MAP. In the interior [VC] shots, I've included a couple of (close-up) images of the (XLS-GNS FMS) NAV/FPL pages, showing my (initial) progress to FINEK, and, then at FINEK, a [DIR-TO] to EGPH...on my way to (historic) Edinburgh...🙂...

Hope you enjoy these images...! Happy Flying...!!

[PMDG(JS41), Orbx(Scotland), Carenado(Other A/C)]

Edited January 22, 20215 yr by P_7878

Beautiful shots! It brings back a lot of memories to me when i was flying this bird on FSX. 😉

Thank you, Schwarzgruber....!! Yes, I'm sure you would remember this SIM if you flew it...!

I can easily recall acquisition of this SIM in my early FSX days, (this was, btw, 2009...I found now, the Pilot Notes is dated so)...and was among the first SIMs, that had taught me that, in spite of all the (multitude of) "lack-of-realisms" that inherently comes with our passion,...of course, speaking, here, as a non-pilot simmer, one can bring a healthy dose of "seriousness" to the hobby, if one wishes...

Just for curiosity I was looking a bit, today, into the Wiki of PMDG. Their first (SIM) plane listed there is 737-600/700 NG on FS9 2003...yes, had it on DVD, as I recall, had made me (instantly) feel like a real jetliner pilot (having just previously "mastered" the FS9 737-400)...🙂...and, probably this is why they say little learning is a dangerous thing...🙂...but, around our hobby, it can be great fun too...

Anyway, this is, indeed, a remarkable SIM, imagine just the Tutorial of "100" pages (AOM is different and 500+ pages)...and on the END page, you're humbled to read, "...this Tutorial only gives you the very basics on how to operate the airplane..."...So, "Grab Coffee and Start Over"...though, this wannabe pilot was already exhausted after one stint of it...🙂...it should not, but took me several hours, from start-up to shut-down,...nonetheless, is always good fun, though, and pressing that final "STOP" on the Engine Switches, was quite satisfying...

Good day folks...!!

Great story and pics, P_7878. I really enjoy your excursions into aviation history.