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Flying between Star and Approach - do i need vectors?

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Hey all, This a pilot2atc question but also more a general flying question.  If I don't include an approach in my flight plan (I prefer to have it allocated), I was wondering if I need to ask for vectors to the approach when I reach the Star and receive a message like this from ATC:.

"Expect the  ILS  approach to runway Two Seven with the LCY transition"

.....or is it understood from that the message that I will effectively fly direct from HON (star) to the LCY transition and join the approach for ILS 27 at EGLC? 

I've had this a few times and felt a bit unsure.  Just for the sake of realism I'd like to know what the proper procedure is both real life and pilot2atc.

Thank you! 

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  • Commercial Member

That message is what you would get when no STAR is assigned and your approach has a transition.  Assuming the transition does not have a manual termination and puts you on a good intercept to final, you will probably fly the full transition and be cleared for the ILS without any vectors.  

If you were going to get cleared for a STAR, it would have told you to Expect the xxxx arrival for the ILS.....

Dave

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Ah Understood, HON isn't actually a star is it. Sids and Stars are the hardest thing to get your head around at first!  Thanks Dave

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