February 3, 20233 yr I just spent the last 3 hours and cannot get the following three things working with AAO and the Longitude. 1. AP Disconnect 2. T/O button on the throttle to work. 3. Reverse Thrust I have most everything else going well through AAO but the above three are maddening! Can someone please provide me some guidance. Thank you Eric
February 3, 20233 yr Commercial Member 45 minutes ago, B777ER said: I just spent the last 3 hours and cannot get the following three things working with AAO and the Longitude. 1. AP Disconnect 2. T/O button on the throttle to work. 3. Reverse Thrust I have most everything else going well through AAO but the above three are maddening! Can someone please provide me some guidance. Thank you Default Longitude, no mods, taken from the Behaviors window in MSFS Developer Mode: 1. Default K-Event. AUTOPILOT_DISENGAGE_TOGGLE. Don't watch the button in the cockpit, that won't move. But the autopilot will disengage when you use these events. Be mindful that this is an "on-off" affair. When you have disengaged the AP, you have to send the event again to re-arm it. Or use the K-Event AUTOPILOT_DISENGAGE_SET with values 0 and 1. 2. Default K-Event. AUTO_THROTTLE_TO_GA 3. Depends on your controller. I have Saitek TQs and I am using the button functionality that the levers have at their lowest position. Default K-Event "THROTTLE1_DECR" on Key Down, "Repeat Fast" set, "THROTTLE1_CUT" as Key Up event. Likewise for throttle 2 Edited February 3, 20233 yr by Lorby_SI LORBY-SI
February 3, 20233 yr Author 44 minutes ago, Lorby_SI said: Default Longitude, no mods, taken from the Behaviors window in MSFS Developer Mode: 1. Default K-Event. AUTOPILOT_DISENGAGE_TOGGLE. Don't watch the button in the cockpit, that won't move. But the autopilot will disengage when you use these events. Be mindful that this is an "on-off" affair. When you have disengaged the AP, you have to send the event again to re-arm it. Or use the K-Event AUTOPILOT_DISENGAGE_SET with values 0 and 1. 2. Default K-Event. AUTO_THROTTLE_TO_GA 3. Depends on your controller. I have Saitek TQs and I am using the button functionality that the levers have at their lowest position. Default K-Event "THROTTLE1_DECR" on Key Down, "Repeat Fast" set, "THROTTLE1_CUT" as Key Up event. Likewise for throttle 2 I have the TM HOTAS joystick and throttles. I’m sorry, not near my manual right now to refresh my memory, what does K-Event mean? I will key word search for the above events and do as you instructed above. You’re the best! I was getting so frustrated! Eric
February 4, 20233 yr Commercial Member 8 hours ago, B777ER said: what does K-Event mean? That is the default MSFS mechanism from the SDKEvent IDs (flightsimulator.com) The lists in AAO are compiled from this documentation. Sadly, not all events that exist are present in the documentation, so some have to be entered manually or wrapped into a script in AAO. The are called "K" events because in simulator RPN code the events are called like this: 1 (>K:AUTOPILOT_DISENGAGE_TOGGLE). And those are what I can see in the behavior debug dialog in MSFS developer mode. Best way to find out what a specific button in the cockpit does. LORBY-SI
February 5, 20233 yr Author On 2/3/2023 at 4:19 PM, Lorby_SI said: 3. Depends on your controller. I have Saitek TQs and I am using the button functionality that the levers have at their lowest position. Default K-Event "THROTTLE1_DECR" on Key Down, "Repeat Fast" set, "THROTTLE1_CUT" as Key Up event. Likewise for throttle 2 @Lorby_SI Just 2 quick follow up - 1. Do you know if it is possible to assign a button to toggle reverse and then use the thrust levers as normal for reverse thrust operation? And then once you toggle that button again to take it out of reverse operation, you would then use the thrust levers as normal for forward thrust. Not sure if that is possible? 2. On the Longitude, the Default K-Event. AUTO_THROTTLE_TO_GA arms the TO/GA. But does not engage the A/T (autothrottle). I am having difficulty finding the K Event for that actual A/T button. In the Longitude, the A/T button is below the TO/GA button on the throttles. Edited February 5, 20233 yr by B777ER Eric
February 6, 20233 yr Commercial Member 21 hours ago, B777ER said: 2. I am having difficulty finding the K Event What kind of difficulty? If it is a default event, use the Filter box on the event selection dialog. When you click in the key down box, and the dialog opens, immediately start typing "throt" and then press Enter. The treelist will be reduced to all events that have "throt" in their names. You should find the default events for TOGA etc. in there. If you have to trigger more than one event, use RPN scripts. If it is not a default event, use the MSFS developer mode. Open "Windows->Behaviors", then go back into the sim, hover the mouse over the desired knob and press Ctrl&G multiple times until you get the "Template parameters" in the Behavior window for that knob. Browse through the templates and components until you find things like "left single code" or "set external" etc. Anything that looks reasonably like an LVar, HVar, BVar or K-Event. If it is an entire script, that is fine too, you can usually copy&paste them over to AAO. Only minor adjustments are requires (LVars need a Unit in AAO, use ", Number") Edited February 6, 20233 yr by Lorby_SI LORBY-SI
February 6, 20233 yr Commercial Member 20 hours ago, B777ER said: 1. Do you know if it is possible I know that MSFS has that functionality, but off the top of my head I don't know if the same button event exists in SimConnect / the SDK as a default K-Event. You should be able to do this with a Combo button in AAO though. You create two assignements for throttles and another two with the same levers for reversers. Then assign a toogle button to all four so only two of them are active at the same time. LORBY-SI
February 6, 20233 yr Author 1 hour ago, Lorby_SI said: What kind of difficulty? If it is a default event, use the Filter box on the event selection dialog. When you click in the key down box, and the dialog opens, immediately start typing "throt" and then press Enter. The treelist will be reduced to all events that have "throt" in their names. You should find the default events for TOGA etc. in there. If you have to trigger more than one event, use RPN scripts. If it is not a default event, use the MSFS developer mode. Open "Windows->Behaviors", then go back into the sim, hover the mouse over the desired knob and press Ctrl&G multiple times until you get the "Template parameters" in the Behavior window for that knob. Browse through the templates and components until you find things like "left single code" or "set external" etc. Anything that looks reasonably like an LVar, HVar, BVar or K-Event. If it is an entire script, that is fine too, you can usually copy&paste them over to AAO. Only minor adjustments are requires (LVars need a Unit in AAO, use ", Number") I used the filter box and found it. Thank you Eric
February 6, 20233 yr Author 1 hour ago, Lorby_SI said: I know that MSFS has that functionality, but off the top of my head I don't know if the same button event exists in SimConnect / the SDK as a default K-Event. You should be able to do this with a Combo button in AAO though. You create two assignements for throttles and another two with the same levers for reversers. Then assign a toogle button to all four so only two of them are active at the same time. This is interesting with the combo button, going to have to play with it some more. Edited February 6, 20233 yr by B777ER Eric
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