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A2A Comache Saitek Radio Panel ADF Problem

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Hi,
i try to use the A2A Comache with the Saitkek Radio Panel together with AaO and everything is working so far. expept for the ADF. i can read the values but i'm unable to change anything. Also the ADF on the Comache has some kind of Clock/Timer function, that is also not availiable on the Radio Panel. Is there anyway to get this working?

Thanks

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4 hours ago, Bam2000 said:

Is there anyway to get this working?

In MSFS developer mode it looks like the ADF controls are all BVars. So that is what you have to find and then assign to the radio panel. Since the panel doesn't have a spare control for the rec/timer rocker switch, you will have to find a different solution for that one.

1 (>B:Radio_Event_Knob_ADFOuter_Dec)
1 (>B:Radio_Event_Knob_ADFOuter_Inc)
1 (>B:Radio_Event_Knob_ADFInner_Dec)
1 (>B:Radio_Event_Knob_ADFInner_Inc)

1 (>B:Radio_event_ADF_switch_mode_TIMER)
1 (>B:Radio_event_ADF_switch_mode_REC)
1 (>B:Radio_event_ADF_switch_mode_Off)

1 (>B:Radio_event_ADF_switch_Push)
1 (>B:Radio_event_ADF_switch_Release)

1 (>L:FrqRstButton, Number) (SPLIT:100) 0 (>L:FrqRstButton, Number)

(L:AdfOnOffKnobVolume, Number) 5 + 100 min (>L:AdfOnOffKnobVolume, Number)
(L:AdfOnOffKnobVolume, Number) 5 - 0 max (>L:AdfOnOffKnobVolume, Number)

1 (>B:Pushbutton_Starter_2States_Toggle)

etc.

Edited by Lorby_SI

LORBY-SI

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Thx will give it a try 🙂 

  • 4 weeks later...
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Hello, i need your help again in completing the task.

I have now switched my Radio Panel into Midi mode and try to reconfigure it like before with COM1, COM2 and then the working ADF...

The Radio Panel has this switch on the left side to switch between COM1, COM2, DME, ADF, XPDR. So i need to use the Combo function of AaO to reprogram the 2 Right Rotaries to the selected function of the right Switch.

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But it will not work. no mater if i choose "is Toggle", "Supress key Down event", or nothing selected like in the picture.

It even uses the wrong command when for example the left switch is set to COM1 it will change the COM2 Value, and often it won't do anyhing at all.

Any idea what might be wrong?

Thanks

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Why are you using MIDI mode? What's wrong with assigning the scripts to the Saitek Events directly?

If you want to stick to MIDI mode, I don't think that this will work with the "Combo" approach. In MIDI mode, a button action is always "momentary", it is not "pressed" all the time. That goes for the selector too. So you would have to use "is toggle" - but that will get you into conflict with the others, because as toggles they will be active too (you would have to press them again to release them). I need to take another look at this particular logic, it feels like there should be a better solution for the Radio and potentially the Multi panel too.

I would try to handle the selector knobs separately, each position of each knob is a separate button assignment, and each sets a custom LVar, like (L:RadioPanelTopKnob), (L:RadioPanelBottomKnob)  to a value between 0 and 6.
And for the rotary encoder you create only two big scripts, one for INC the other for DEC, that will trigger different scripts/events/BVars etc. in accordance with the LVar value.

 

 

Edited by Lorby_SI

LORBY-SI

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Sorry, strike that, I didn't remember it correctly.

In MIDI mode, the rotary encoders on the radio panel send different event numbers for each position of the selector.

You don't need no Combo or anything, you just have to create two assignments for each rotary for each position of its selector knob (so 28 in total)

Edited by Lorby_SI

LORBY-SI

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10 hours ago, Lorby_SI said:

Sorry, strike that, I didn't remember it correctly.

In MIDI mode, the rotary encoders on the radio panel send different event numbers for each position of the selector.

You don't need no Combo or anything, you just have to create two assignments for each rotary for each position of its selector knob (so 28 in total)

ahh thats why it was behaving to weird. THanks for the heads up, now it is working.

But another Question, i want to show the STDBY ADF Value of the Comanche ADF in the Radio Panel (the Active ADF Value is working) i figured out that the Standby Frequency is written in the value (A:ADF STANDBY FREQUENCY:1, KHz) but when i entere that into th "Assign Variables" field for the RP_ADF_STANDBY it won't work. It still shows only 890 on the Radio Panel. 

Edited by Bam2000

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2 hours ago, Bam2000 said:

But another Question, i want to show the STDBY ADF Value of the Comanche ADF in the Radio Panel (the Active ADF Value is working) i figured out that the Standby Frequency is written in the value (A:ADF STANDBY FREQUENCY:1, KHz) but when i entere that into th "Assign Variables" field for the RP_ADF_STANDBY it won't work. It still shows only 890 on the Radio Panel. 

That looks like a bug in AAO. The RadioPanel logic doesn't display the standby ADF frequencies at all, you are looking at ADF1 and ADF2 active freq side by side, and the button switches the rotary encoder action between the two.
The bug is, that you can't overwrite the ADF2 Display at the moment - this will have to be fixed in a future version.

Edited by Lorby_SI

LORBY-SI

  • 3 months later...
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On 8/13/2023 at 12:12 PM, Lorby_SI said:


The bug is, that you can't overwrite the ADF2 Display at the moment - this will have to be fixed in a future version.

Hey, i tried with version 2.60b32 and the Saitek Radio Panel still cannot display the ADF2... what do i have to do to get it working ? Thanks

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9 hours ago, Bam2000 said:

Hey, i tried with version 2.60b32 and the Saitek Radio Panel still cannot display the ADF2... what do i have to do to get it working ? Thanks

Can you be more specific what "cannot display" means exactly? What are you configuring where and how?

I just tested the RadioPanel, it seems to work fine with the AAO default setting. No changes to anything in the Saitek Panel config and I am getting the ADF 1 active and standby frequencies displayed side by side.

Edited by Lorby_SI

LORBY-SI

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Mhh I cannot get it to work, and checked that aao radio panel settings are reset

here is a picture of what I mean.

https://imgur.com/a/bsc0EYT

 

i can manipulate the  right value in the Virtual cockpit with the knob on the Saitek radio panel, but the saitek radio panel doesn’t reflect the changed number.

Edited by Bam2000

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Did you change the Saitek Panel configuration in any way? In AAO I mean? 

I've never used the panels with this aircarft before, and it worked right out of the box. ADF1, active freq left, standby right, same as in the cockpit.

LORBY-SI

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mhh i might have played around when it was not working back in August. But i think i resettet everything back to stock settings.

https://imgur.com/a/fm80e4Z

Or is there another way to fully reset the Radio Panel settings except clicking the "Restore Defaults in the "Variables" and "Events" menu of hte Saitek Device Config?

Edited by Bam2000

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OK, so it looks like I actaully have a different setting on my end. 

On the Variables dialog, I have the RPN script
(A:ADF STANDBY FREQUENCY:1, Hz) 10 / int

overriding
RP_ADF2_ACTIVE

By default you would see the ADF2 active freq here, which is probably not present in the plane in the first place - is there an ADF2?

LORBY-SI

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thanks that worked, its now showing the correct value.

Another Problem i cannot find the option to assign the ADF Swap button of the Radio Panel in the "Assign Events" viewer.

The COM1, COM2, NAV1, NAV2 and DME all are present.

https://imgur.com/a/ulhCTas

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