July 27, 20232 yr Ive been practicing flying the Black Square Analog King Air for a couple of days now, but I still havent found how to switch between nav source Nav1 and Nav2. Ive been watching videos, but this doesnt seem to be very helpful. Why do people buy an analog cockpit to not fly the analog way and still choose the lazy way, using a GPS? Doesnt that defy the whole reason of having an analog cockpit? Sometimes I wish I wasnt autistic, just to understand what is going on in the neuro-typical world. 😉 Not sure its worth it, though. 😁 But anyway, can someone help me out and tell me how to switch between navigation sources Nav1 and Nav2? Cheers! Maarten
July 27, 20232 yr Below your radios and above your throttle quadrant, on the pilot side, there is one switch where you can select either Nav 1 or RNAV for your AP. If you intend to run your AP on Nav 2, to my knowledge, you can't. Bernard CPU = 12900K / GPU = Nvidia 3090 VRAM 24 GB / RAM = 64 GB / SSD = 2 TB 980 PRO PCle 4.0 NVMe™ M.2,
July 27, 20232 yr Author I found that switch, but it has been at least 5 years since Ive been simming, so for now I'll keep it basics, at least until I find a proper tutorial about the Bendix King KNS-80. So for now I stick to basic Nav1/Nav2 use. And some ADF, if needed. Just wondering, why would there be a Nav2 if you cant use it? Cheers! Maarten
July 27, 20232 yr 8 minutes ago, Demious said: why would there be a Nav2 if you cant use it? You can use it, simply select the frequency on Nav2 on the copilot side. Bernard CPU = 12900K / GPU = Nvidia 3090 VRAM 24 GB / RAM = 64 GB / SSD = 2 TB 980 PRO PCle 4.0 NVMe™ M.2,
July 27, 20232 yr I don't have this a/c, so I'm not positive of my answer, but just because one can't couple Nav2 to the autopilot doesn't mean that you can't use it. That second VOR comes in very handy in a non-RNAV scenario to allow identification of on-track waypoints for example, especially if DME fixes aren't available. Believe me, I have done a fair amount of navigation with only a single VOR receiver and it's lots easier with two! John Wiesenfeld KPBI | FAA PPL/SEL/IFR in a galaxy long ago and far away | VATSIM PILOT P2 i7-11700K, 32 GB DDR4 3.6 GHz, MSI RTX 3070ti, Dell 4K monitor
July 27, 20232 yr Author 2 minutes ago, jrw4 said: I don't have this a/c, so I'm not positive of my answer, but just because one can't couple Nav2 to the autopilot doesn't mean that you can't use it. That second VOR comes in very handy in a non-RNAV scenario to allow identification of on-track waypoints for example, especially if DME fixes aren't available. Believe me, I have done a fair amount of navigation with only a single VOR receiver and it's lots easier with two! This morning I saved a video about this, I think. I didnt have time to watch it completely, but Im gonna have a look. Thanks guys! Cheers! Maarten
July 27, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Demious said: Why do people buy an analog cockpit to not fly the analog way and still choose the lazy way, using a GPS? You have a good point, but in real life it's a double edged sword. You have those with analog cockpits who desire advanced avionics because of the access to different air spaces and fields under certain weather conditions. You also have those with advanced avionics who encounter failures and struggle when resorting to analog style navigation. I remember when those hand held GPS devices started showing up in GA. I once flew with a guy who had a device with a trial period that only showed a key whole view of the route. He didn't care as long as he could see the aircraft icon on the line🤣. I also noticed he had a little dependency on that thing, though he wouldn't buy a subscription🤣. It seems people like having assurance that they are where the analog instruments say they are. It's a boring morning, so I will share a time that I had to revert to analog style navigation. I arrived in Texas to pick a up a DC-10-30 that was coming out of C check. Of course, that night we had plenty of good food and margarita's. The next day was going to be an easy empty flight back to the North East. After signing my life away on hundreds of pages of paperwork, we were finally given the jet to get on our way. During the preflight, we found that someone had taken the NAV database card out of the jet🤔. We hadn't brought one with us because the process was to update the one in the jet before departure. Now we are sitting thinking can we/should we fly like this. We could update the equipment codes on the flightplan and refile. We could also validate the flightplan and load it using Lat Longs. That's what we chose to do. Once ready to go, we went through with the charts and checked the Lat Longs before grabbing clearance. We departed uneventful and around 10,000FT in the climb, we were given a direct to a random waypoint. This is where the fun started. They took us off our flightplan route due to weather and traffic. They were taking us bit North of our route. Every time we were cleared to a random waypoint, we had to find it and hand jam the Lat Long. All three of us were busy trying to find those points and get headed in that direction. Sometimes it would be on the high chart, sometimes it would be on the low. The directs came fast and furious so we started asking for initial headings as we searched. We didn't want to cause a scene, but we were quickly task saturated. ATC asked were we having a problem. We told them we had a navigation issue and requested NAVAIDs instead of waypoints. He couldn't do that, but resulted to giving us headings. He passed it on to the other controllers and that's how we flew home. Looking back, I would never willingly do that again. We couldn't rely on NAVAID to NAVAID navigation and all we needed was one additional issue and it would have been ugly with task saturation. We were very lucky because you normally have a host of issues coming out of C Check. I once had the gear handle disconnect while retracting gear after takeoff. In that situation, we were ready and capable of radio navigation. Unfortunately, the weather and traffic prevented it. I can clearly see why some want the advanced avionics and why all have to stay proficient with analog navigation skills. One minute you are laughing and pounding margaritas and the next you are fighting for your life in congested airspace🤣. Rick D http://g5flyer.tumblr.com/
July 27, 20232 yr Author Omg, Rick, that sounds like an entertaining flight! 😉 I'm interested in learning all those things, but I'm glad I'm safe in my office when flying. 😋 Edited July 27, 20232 yr by Demious Cheers! Maarten
July 27, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Demious said: Omg, Rick, that sounds like an entertaining flight! 😉 I'm interested in learning all those things, but I'm glad I'm safe in my office when flying. 😋 🤣, you can imagine the regret we had when the fun started. Especially when we could of had another night of margaritas at the river walk.🤣 Rick D http://g5flyer.tumblr.com/
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