Hi Dave!

This has actually been going on for a year or two and I'm finally bringing it to your attention (obviously it's not that big a deal).

My IFR flight is from KRDU to KMYR,  I have already gotten clearance from CD and am making the request for taxi.   As you can see from the attached log, i make the request for taxi:

Recognized Speech: Raleigh Ground Tower Two Two Seven Whiskey Alpha Ready to Taxi 14:13:28

It seems to cut off the rest of my readback because I definitely finish the phrase but the log seems to only show part of my readback:

Recognized Speech: Taxi Runway Zero Five Right via Taxiway Juliet Two Juliet Alpha Seven 14:13:48

After that I usually let Otto do the readback the next time but he isn't recognized either (I can't remember if I did that this time).   I can repeat this over and over and never get the controller to recognize either me or Otto.   I finally just taxi on and ignore the controller.   Weird thing is, this doesn't happen every time but more often than not.

 

The other issue is when I report in to either Departure or Center.   If I haven't reached altitude yet,  I always say:

"Raleigh Departure,  November Two Two Seven Whiskey Alpha Two Thousand Two Hundred Climbing Six Thousand"

When I read the green text, it always looks right but only about half the time, the controller understands what I say.  The same thing happens when I report in to Center once reaching altitude:

Recognized Speech: Washington Center Tower Two Two Seven Whiskey Alpha Level At Six Thousand 14:55:16

InterruptAudio in SayPhrase: Two Two Seven Whiskey Alpha   good afternoon .  This is Washington Center go ahead.  09/04/2023 14:55:17

 

I'm guessing it has something to do with this "InterruptAudio in SayPhrase" but it doesn't make sense why it does that.  Like I said,  it doesn't happen every time and when the say "Go ahead", I know they didn't recognize me so I just ignore them and life goes on.   It would be nice to see this fixed but I wish I understood what was happening and could do something different.  I hate to veer too far from accepted atc speed though.

 

Like I said,  this is not a big deal,  just wanted to bring it to your attention.

Gooday!

-mark

Log File:

https://snomhf.exofire.net/data/p2a/P2A2021_Trace_File7.zip

Thanks Mark.

I'm currently working on some major changes to the recognition portion of the program.

After that is a little further along, it will be released in beta.

In the meantime, phrases being cut off either at the beginning or end has happened to me when I start speaking before the PTT button has been pressed long enough to start recognition or I release it a fraction of a second too early and the end gets clipped.

Hopefully the new recognition code, once fully debugged, will do a little better at recognizing.

Dave

Thanks Dave

You've trained me well to pause before speaking and hold the mic a few seconds afterward too so I don't think that is part of this problem.   Maybe there is some sort of lag issue though.   It's been going on for a very long time is why I brought it up.   Again,  not a big deal but P2A is so good, it's a shame for this not to get addressed at some point.

Thanks for the great support!

Mark,

Beta 7 was just released and hopefully will fix the recognition issues.

Dave

Thank you sir!

I believe you've done it Dave!

Just finished a two hour flight with at least a dozen handoffs.   Zero misunderstandings!  I was cruising at 10k and reported in with "Level at ten thousand" and controller didn't recognize that so I changed to "level at flight level one zero zero" and used that throughout with no problem which is what I should be saying anyway.   I tried several times to get the controller to do the loop repeat thing with taxi instructions but he got it right every time.

Thank you for such quick response!

-mark

 

Well, sorry to report that Beta 7C is worse than ever.  

I'm getting the infinite loop on taxi instructions EVERYTIME now and no matter what I do, I can't get ARTCC to recognize my report in.  I've tried:

TWO THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED CLIMBING EIGHT THOUSAND

LEVEL EIGHT THOUSAND

LEVEL AT EIGHT THOUSAND 

Even tried the old WW2 speak that used to work:

WITH YOU AT EIGHT THOUSAND

Finally just said

TALLY HO

Which I don't really even know what that means but the controller liked that.   I gave up after than.   Frustrating

All other communication works fine (ils approach, tower comm,  ground comm, etc)

Log:

https://snomhf.exofire.net/data/p2a/KRDU-KCLT.zip

 

Edited September 13, 20232 yr by snomhf

Thanks.  I'll look into it.

Dave