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P2A is slowing dying
I decided as a test, to try another sound card that I happened to have. It DID NOT work any better than the Asus Xonar U5 that I have been using. Here is a link to that small device: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075YFDJ4Q?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_8&th=1 BTW, I decided to go through the Speech Training again. It just works perfectly. It completely understands my voice. I only needed to repeat myself three or four times out of all those phrases. I have to say that my microphone not only works, it works great! My microphone is a small 3.5mm plugin that is mounted on my desk. Here are the settings for this little test sound card:
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P2A is slowing dying
Here is as much info on my microphone as I could gather:
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P2A is slowing dying
Hi Dave, First, you misunderstand my microphone setup. I have a desk-style microphone (not headset, therefore no headset speakers) and I use my speaker system for sound. My yoke-button PTT mutes all sound from X-Plane when I push it so P2A doesn't hear anything but my voice. I have been using this arrangement since the very first day I installed P2A (over seven years ago!) with total success. It is because of this long standing success until a few weeks ago that leads me to believe: Something in Windows changed how legacy apps (like P2A) access the microphone during runtime Here is a video demonstrating that the "Practice" trainer does not work. I am of course not using the yoke-button for any of this testing.
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P2A is slowing dying
Try it now: I also made this one which demonstrates three things: 1. The "whoosh.wav" does not play after I speak "Radio Check" as it always did before this problem occurred. 2. Using the menu-based ATC works as it always has. 3. Pressing and holding the PTT button turns Green and I pause a second, then speak, then pause a second and release the button. Nothing at all happens. Back when this worked, I would hear the "whoosh" sound from the "whoosh.wav" file that I use as my "Speech Recognized Tone." Hopefully this gives you a couple of good examples of the problem.
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P2A is slowing dying
Here is a video of my showing that I can use the Language Trainer successfully and that my microphone is working just fine. The video then shows me trying to click "Listen" and the "Replay" button remains greyed out. Is there anything else I can do to demonstrate this problem? https://youtu.be/H6LgjMCBWJ0
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P2A is slowing dying
To consolidate where things stand so we don’t keep circling the same items: Clean reinstall of P2A (AppData cleared, no prior settings restored) English (US) speech components installed (Basic + Enhanced) Default aircraft profile configured “Ignore Battery Switch” and “Ignore Avionics Switch” both enabled PTT and mic working Ran Speech Training once Log now shows: User Names Found LoadGrammar Succeeded Started Listening / Stopped Listening However: No recognition result is ever returned No utterance logged No recognized phrase or rejection line So the recognizer is initializing and entering listen mode, but nothing is coming back from it. What log entry should I expect for a rejected or unrecognized utterance, and is there any condition where the recognizer would listen but never return a result?
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P2A is slowing dying
Progress. After deleting and recreating my aircraft profile (I guess it had gotten corrupted), the log now shows: User Names Found LoadGrammar Succeeded Started Listening Stopped Listening So the recognizer is now initializing and entering listen mode on PTT. However, I still get no recognition result at all: no speech-recognized tone after PTT release no utterance logged no recognized phrase or rejection line in the log This seems to have moved past recognizer initialization and into a no-recognition/input issue. Is there a specific log entry I should expect for a rejected utterance, or anything else I should check to confirm P2A is actually receiving speech audio during the listen window? Thanks Dave! Here are the relevant parts of the log: 2026-04-12 15:19:45.0533|INFO|P2ADataLinq.Speech.P2ASpeechRecognizer|User Names Found: 1256 2026-04-12 15:19:45.1519|INFO|P2ADataLinq.Speech.P2ASpeechRecognizer|LoadGrammar Succeeded. 2026-04-12 15:19:45.1519|INFO|P2ADataLinq.ComChannelMgr|ComChannelMgr.Connect Succeeded. 2026-04-12 15:19:45.1785|INFO|Pilot2ATC_3.ViewModel.MainWindowVM|SIM version: XP XP-12 2026-04-12 15:19:45.3681|INFO|P2ADataLinq.JoystickMgr|JoystickMgr.Init 2026-04-12 15:19:45.4462|INFO|P2ADataLinq.simJoystick|Loading Joystick Devices - 9 devices loaded. 2026-04-12 15:19:45.4462|INFO|P2ADataLinq.simJoystick|Active GUID count: 5 2026-04-12 15:19:45.4462|INFO|P2ADataLinq.simJoystick|Joystick Device number 2 DeviceName: CLS-120 successfully activated. 2026-04-12 15:19:45.5288|INFO|P2ADataLinq.simJoystick|Loading Joystick Devices - 9 devices loaded. 2026-04-12 15:19:45.5288|INFO|P2ADataLinq.simJoystick|Active GUID count: 5 2026-04-12 15:19:45.5288|INFO|P2ADataLinq.simJoystick|Unable to select device number -1 2026-04-12 15:19:45.6079|INFO|P2ADataLinq.simJoystick|Loading Joystick Devices - 9 devices loaded. 2026-04-12 15:19:45.6079|INFO|P2ADataLinq.simJoystick|Active GUID count: 5 2026-04-12 15:19:45.6079|INFO|P2ADataLinq.simJoystick|Unable to select device number -1 2026-04-12 15:19:45.6880|INFO|P2ADataLinq.simJoystick|Loading Joystick Devices - 9 devices loaded. 2026-04-12 15:19:45.6880|INFO|P2ADataLinq.simJoystick|Active GUID count: 5 2026-04-12 15:19:45.6880|INFO|P2ADataLinq.simJoystick|Unable to select device number -1 2026-04-12 15:19:45.7650|INFO|P2ADataLinq.simJoystick|Loading Joystick Devices - 9 devices loaded. 2026-04-12 15:19:45.7650|INFO|P2ADataLinq.simJoystick|Active GUID count: 5 2026-04-12 15:19:45.7650|INFO|P2ADataLinq.simJoystick|Unable to select device number -1 2026-04-12 15:19:45.8441|INFO|P2ADataLinq.simJoystick|Loading Joystick Devices - 9 devices loaded. 2026-04-12 15:19:45.8441|INFO|P2ADataLinq.simJoystick|Active GUID count: 5 2026-04-12 15:19:45.8441|INFO|P2ADataLinq.simJoystick|Unable to select device number -1 2026-04-12 15:19:45.9217|INFO|P2ADataLinq.simJoystick|Loading Joystick Devices - 9 devices loaded. 2026-04-12 15:19:45.9222|INFO|P2ADataLinq.simJoystick|Active GUID count: 5 2026-04-12 15:19:45.9222|INFO|P2ADataLinq.simJoystick|Unable to select device number -1 2026-04-12 15:19:45.9222|INFO|P2ADataLinq.JoystickMgr|JoystickMgr.Init completed 2026-04-12 15:19:45.9222|INFO|P2ADataLinq.ComChannel|ControllerFreqChanged: 133.100. CtlrShrtName: KHEF Twr CtlrType: Tower 2026-04-12 15:19:45.9222|INFO|P2ADataLinq.ComChannel|Com1 set to KHEF Twr 133.10 2026-04-12 15:19:45.9222|INFO|P2ADataLinq.ComChannel|ControllerFreqChanged: 125.175. CtlrShrtName: KHEF ATIS CtlrType: ATIS 2026-04-12 15:19:45.9222|INFO|P2ADataLinq.ComChannel|Com2 set to KHEF ATIS 125.17 2026-04-12 15:19:46.3686|INFO|P2ADataLinq.Speech.P2ASpeechRecognizer|User Names Found: 1256 2026-04-12 15:19:46.4267|INFO|P2ADataLinq.Speech.P2ASpeechRecognizer|LoadGrammar Succeeded. 2026-04-12 15:19:46.4267|INFO|P2ADataLinq.ComChannelMgr|ComChannelMgr.Connect Succeeded. 2026-04-12 15:19:46.4267|INFO|Pilot2ATC_3.ViewModel.MainWindowVM|ConnectToSIM events fired. 2026-04-12 15:19:46.4267|INFO|Pilot2ATC_3.ViewModel.MainWindowVM|ConnectToSIM complete. 2026-04-12 15:20:05.9531|INFO|P2ADataLinq.Speech.P2ASpeechRecognizer|InterruptAudio in Listen 4/12/2026 3:20:05 PM 2026-04-12 15:20:05.9536|INFO|P2ADataLinq.Speech.SpeechMgr|AudioInterrupts: 1 in InterruptAudio 2026-04-12 15:20:05.9536|INFO|P2ADataLinq.Speech.P2ASpeechRecognizer|Chatter Paused in Listen 2026-04-12 15:20:05.9696|INFO|P2ADataLinq.Speech.P2ASpeechRecognizer|Started Listening 2026-04-12 15:20:06.3134|INFO|P2ADataLinq.Speech.SpeechMgr|AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 2026-04-12 15:20:09.7521|INFO|P2ADataLinq.Speech.SpeechMgr|AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 2026-04-12 15:20:09.7521|INFO|P2ADataLinq.Speech.P2ASpeechRecognizer|Chatter UnPaused in Stop Listening 2026-04-12 15:20:09.7521|INFO|P2ADataLinq.Speech.P2ASpeechRecognizer|Stopped Listening
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P2A is slowing dying
I went a step further to isolate this. Clean reinstall of P2A (AppData\Roaming\P2A_300 deleted, no settings restored) English (US) speech components confirmed installed (Basic + Enhanced) Mic/PTT/TTS all working Result is unchanged: No whoosh tone No utterances logged No recognition events This system was working previously and the only change during the period it stopped working was Windows updates. Given that a clean P2A install behaves the same way, it seems like P2A is unable to instantiate the recognizer on this system rather than a configuration issue. Is there any logging or indicator that shows whether recognizer initialization is succeeding or failing?
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Pilot2ATC 3.0 RC1
Maybe a dumb question but you do have "Active Sky Weather" checked in the Wx tab of P2A Settings right?
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Is PTT working for you?
Just curious if anyone besides me is having trouble with PTT voice. I think a Windows 11 update has made mine quit working as I don't get anything when I press PTT and say "Radio Check." Before, when it worked, I could say that and my "Speech Recognized Tone" wav file would play indicating that P2A understood my speech. Now, it does nothing. I know my mic works and I was even able to go though the "Speech Training" setups with no problem. I wouldn't have been able to do that unless my mic was working. I have been using ChatGPT to try to diagnose this but now it's wanting me to reinstall parts of Windows and I just don't want to start ripping my fairly complex system apart like that. Without voice, P2A is rather useless to me. I mainly want to understand if this is something unique to my system or if others are having this problem. Thanks much! -mark
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P2A is slowing dying
Thanks for all the work you've done on this Dave. Deleting AppSettings.xml got my maps to show up again. So aside from having to restore all my settings, that part of things is fixed. The microphone and PTT however is still very much broken. I’ve gone through full troubleshooting and wanted to share a more precise symptom. PTT works (button registers and plays tone), and TTS works (the “Speak” button returns responses correctly), but speech recognition never triggers. Specifically: The “Speech Recognition Tone” I use (whoosh.wav) never plays No utterances are logged even with logging enabled No recognition events occur at all This behavior is consistent across: Multiple Windows user accounts Fresh P2A configuration (AppSettings reset) Additionally, Windows Speech Recognition (SAPI) does not launch on this system (control /name Microsoft.SpeechRecognition does nothing), although modern Windows dictation works. This suggests P2A may be failing silently when the SAPI recognizer is unavailable or not initialized. Is there any logging or diagnostic mode in P2A that confirms whether the recognizer engine successfully initializes at startup? Also, does P2A require the legacy Windows Speech Recognition (SAPI) subsystem specifically, or can it use the newer Windows speech APIs? It seems to me that Windows apparently did an update at some point and broke this. I really don't know how to proceed. Not having voice in P2A is very much a show-stopper for me. Without that, I may as well use X-Plane's built-in menu based ATC.
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P2A is slowing dying
I'm obviously missing something huge here. Just updated to RC1 and don't see anything different. No maps and no PTT. Do I need to uninstall P2A completely? My mic works fine from System and Audacity. Have I just messed this all up trying to make it work?
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P2A is slowing dying
I'm on 0.2.9 For the last several weeks things have stopped working. First all my maps have disappeared. ALL of them! Now, PTT no longer works. I have tested my mic in Windows, Audacity, etc. and the mic works fine. In P2A, pressing PTT does nothing other than play the "PTT Pressed Tone" sound. If I use the "Speak" button to do a "Radio Check" it works fine, it's only if I use PTT that nothing happens. I don't know what to do now. Since I've never had a problem with my mic before, I never investigated if there was a way to test the mic in P2A. I don't see anything like that. How should I proceed? I've never been big on unstalling a program and re-installing. Would that help? Getting very frustrated here. Please help!
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Maps stopped working
Hi Dave, Any progress on this? I don't have ANY maps at all. I select every single map in the list and don't get anything. You say the Satellite map should work but it doesn't for me.
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Maps stopped working
Thanks Dave. I had a feeling that was what was going on.