January 3, 20242 yr No matter what I do, I can't get either of the two VOR needles to display - even though they're both tuned and receiving (sometimes with DME information). Both ADF pointers/needles display correctly. This is with the MS Store version, SU14. Any ideas?
January 3, 20242 yr Do you have the nav source knob switched to V/ILS? Right to the left of the HDG auto pilot button. Edited January 3, 20242 yr by Bdub22
January 3, 20242 yr 43 minutes ago, Adamski_NZ said: No matter what I do, I can't get either of the two VOR needles to display - even though they're both tuned and receiving (sometimes with DME information). Both ADF pointers/needles display correctly. This is with the MS Store version, SU14. Any ideas? Hit the two Bearing buttons on the pedestal right below the parking brake (BRG1 & BRG2):
January 3, 20242 yr Author Thanks! I've always used those two buttons (BRG1 & BRG2): they cycle through VOR/ADF/OFF. As I said, I get the ADF needles to show, but not the VOR ones - and, yes, I have the NAV source switches set to VOR/ILS. Do you see them OK? I'll see if I can upload an screenshot or two.
January 3, 20242 yr Author UPDATE: I think I've found the problem. Not all VOR beacons work as advertised. I've been doing test flights from NZWU (Whanganui) to NZAA (Auckland) and it appears that the VORs around NZWU don't work (even though they show as tuned) and even show DME distances. On nearing NZAA, Tauranga and Hamilton VORs work correctly. Similarly, some ADF beacons work and some don't (again, they tune OK but don't work). It may be some incorrect info in the NAV database the ATR is using (though I have the latest Navigraph installed). Edited January 3, 20242 yr by Adamski_NZ
January 3, 20242 yr 7 hours ago, Adamski_NZ said: On nearing NZAA, Tauranga and Hamilton VORs work correctly. VORs are line-of-sight, so if it’s mountainous terrain (I don’t know the area but I know NZ tends to be hilly at the very least), you may not pick them up until you get closer in.
January 3, 20242 yr Author 6 hours ago, mryan75 said: VORs are line-of-sight, so if it’s mountainous terrain (I don’t know the area but I know NZ tends to be hilly at the very least), you may not pick them up until you get closer in. Good theory - and I wonder whether MSFS actually models that (it'd be great if it did!). However - with the problem VORs, I was at 12,000ft and within 5-10nm - so terrain masking probably wasn't the case. As a test, I might make a note of my location(s) when it happens and overfly the same areas in different aircraft.
January 4, 20242 yr 16 hours ago, Adamski_NZ said: Good theory - and I wonder whether MSFS actually models that (it'd be great if it did!). However - with the problem VORs, I was at 12,000ft and within 5-10nm - so terrain masking probably wasn't the case. As a test, I might make a note of my location(s) when it happens and overfly the same areas in different aircraft. Yeah in that case it’s unlikely. In the US you could look up the VOR in the chart supplement and see any distance and direction limitations. I have no idea how you do that for NZ.
January 4, 20242 yr On 1/3/2024 at 6:39 AM, Adamski_NZ said: it appears that the VORs around NZWU don't work (even though they show as tuned) and even show DME distances. Which VORs specifically? Whanganui 116.0 MHz appears to be a pure DME, colocated with the WU NDB, which would explain why you aren't receiving a VOR signal from it. (Tellingly, there's an NDB DME approach but no VOR DME approach.) Edit: Just confirmed in the New Zealand AIP, WU 116.0 is a pure DME. Edited January 4, 20242 yr by martinboehme Typo
January 4, 20242 yr Author Many thanks. I'd no idea that so many of the VORs in NZ would be DME-only. I've just downloaded the AIP chart (table 3.7) which lists the lot - and I can see which ones are VOR+DME and which are DME-only. In MSFS, I flew down NZ North-South and tested all of them along the way. Here's a breakdown (all the NDB beacons work fine): DME only: ------------------------------ KT (H) Kaitaia 115.80 KK (H) Kerikeri 116.10 WR (H) Whangarei 117.30 TG (H) Tauranga 113.20 WK (H) Whakatane 117.70 AP (H) Taupo 116.70 OR (H) Ohura 113.00 WU (H) Whanganui 116.00 PP (H) Paraparaumu 117.30 WS (H) Westport 116.90 HK (H) Hokitika 117.50 CI (H) Chatham Islands 116.20 RY (H) Mount Mary 112.50 TU (H) Timaru 115.90 HL Henley 115.70 VOR+DME: ------------------------------ WP (H) Whenuapai 116.40 AA (H) Auckland 114.80 HN (H) Hamilton 114.00 RO (H) Rotorua 112.10 GS (H) Gisborne 114.20 NP (H) New Plymouth 114.40 NR (H) Napier 113.80 OH (H) Ohakea 117.10 PM (H) Palmerston North 113.40 WN (H) Wellington 112.30 WB (H) Woodbourne 115.60 CH (H) Christchurch 115.30 QN (H) Queenstown 113.60 SW (H) Swampy 112.70 NV Invercargill 116.80 Edited January 4, 20242 yr by Adamski_NZ
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