I'm thinking of getting the ATR after some fun rides in the real thing.

After seeing a discussion on the MSFS forum it appears that the plane removes custom waypoints from flight plans. Is that true?

So if your flight is:

Departure - fix - fix - fix - fix - Destination

the ATR turns it into:

Departure - Destination

Is this correct?

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I'm a semi-casual who flies using LNM to generate plans (real world plans from FlightAware) and I use that softwares excellent "Select arrival runway" feature that lines me up nicely on a 5 or 10nm approach. I also copy the Flight Aware plan that has fixes along the way. I am aware that SimBrief is built into the airplane. LNM can export to SB which got my interest.

However if ATR FMS is stripping these away then its a no go for me.

Thanks for any info!

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This the discussion I saw:

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As far as I remember it doesn’t work, just as you can’t save custom waypoints. I’ll check later but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t work.

 

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It does not work at all, its just departure and arrival airports, gigantic shame for MS to release a marketplace item branded by them, but incompatible with the base game’s flight planner, instead promoting 3rd party sub based service for a already paid product thats not even finished

Source:

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/atr-saving-and-retrieving-flightplans/600003

 

I usually plan my flights using simbrief and navigraph with every aircraft I use (simbrief integration in-sim works very well by the way, and navigraph subscription in my opinion offers a wide variety of quality, updated and reliable information, including charts, procedures, maps, etc., that makes totally unnecesary the use of additional planing tools like LNM). On the ATR's I've never seen any deleted wayoints already included in the original simbrief flightplan, which of course are not "custom", but real existing waypoints (by the way, it's always a good practice to check every waypoint included in your routes after the flightplan is linked into your FMC).

The Microsoft ATRs have been updated several times since release and still has some bugs. The most annoying one for me is the unability to sync the fuel load from the simbrief flightplan into the FMS/MCDU as (1) it first creates a fuel unbalance between the two tanks that gets resolved by itself during the rest of the flight preparation, and (2) a different load of the total required fuel in the aircraft. Once you forget about these inconveniences, the flight experience with the ATR is very good.

On 1/23/2025 at 5:22 PM, edpatino said:

I usually plan my flights using simbrief and navigraph with every aircraft I use (simbrief integration in-sim works very well by the way, and navigraph subscription in my opinion offers a wide variety of quality, updated and reliable information, including charts, procedures, maps, etc., that makes totally unnecesary the use of additional planing tools like LNM). On the ATR's I've never seen any deleted wayoints already included in the original simbrief flightplan, which of course are not "custom", but real existing waypoints (by the way, it's always a good practice to check every waypoint included in your routes after the flightplan is linked into your FMC).

The Microsoft ATRs have been updated several times since release and still has some bugs. The most annoying one for me is the unability to sync the fuel load from the simbrief flightplan into the FMS/MCDU as (1) it first creates a fuel unbalance between the two tanks that gets resolved by itself during the rest of the flight preparation, and (2) a different load of the total required fuel in the aircraft. Once you forget about these inconveniences, the flight experience with the ATR is very good.

Thanks very much for your reply. Glad to see that there are no deleted waypoints. Looks like they fixed that issue, maybe it was an early bug!

I've used LNM for years, its got such a nice feature set. SB is also nice I had a look at it. If the ATR only uses SB generated plans then I will use LNM to export to SB. The main reason I like LNM is its excellent moving map which I keep up on the second screen.

Will have a think about ATR. Before that will check to see what nice freeware turboprop is out there!

Happy flights!