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Thanks very much for your reply. Glad to see that there are no deleted waypoints. Looks like they fixed that issue, maybe it was an early bug! I've used LNM for years, its got such a nice feature set. SB is also nice I had a look at it. If the ATR only uses SB generated plans then I will use LNM to export to SB. The main reason I like LNM is its excellent moving map which I keep up on the second screen. Will have a think about ATR. Before that will check to see what nice freeware turboprop is out there! Happy flights!

I'm thinking of getting the ATR after some fun rides in the real thing. After seeing a discussion on the MSFS forum it appears that the plane removes custom waypoints from flight plans. Is that true? So if your flight is: Departure - fix - fix - fix - fix - Destination the ATR turns it into: Departure - Destination Is this correct? // I'm a semi-casual who flies using LNM to generate plans (real world plans from FlightAware) and I use that softwares excellent "Select arrival runway" feature that lines me up nicely on a 5 or 10nm approach. I also copy the Flight Aware plan that has fixes along the way. I am aware that SimBrief is built into the airplane. LNM can export to SB which got my interest. However if ATR FMS is stripping these away then its a no go for me. Thanks for any info! // This the discussion I saw: Source: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/atr-saving-and-retrieving-flightplans/600003

I dont have FS24, staying with FS20. I was very keen on jumping to the new game but after seeing all the issues and clunkyness of it all made me cancel those plans. Huge shout out to the early adopters because it is thanks to their feedback that the rest of us can sit back and make a decision. Whats also making it hard for me is that my FS20 is running so smooth, purring away. I have it optimized exactly how I want. Will see how it goes, keeping tabs on the updates, patches and feedback from gamers on YouTube etc.

Nice pics, I like the look of this plane! If anyone's interested heres an article: https://www.flyingmag.com/modern/historys-largest-electric-aircraft-set-to-fly-next-year/

Thanks! Its first gen i7-920, 12GB RAM, GTX 1060 6GB. Lol ancient. Somehow I can play MSFS on it (although I cant fly over dense metro areas, slideshow begins). Thanks for your advice on the new PC, I'm really out of the loop on the hew hardware so that is helpful. Excited to plan the new build and hit it with MSFS2024!

Always Steam for me. Like some others on here I have all my games on Steam and I'm used to managing them that way. I will say however that I think its really cool for those who have a PC and Xbox that you only need to get the game once and then enjoy it on both platforms.

Excellent shots, the detail is just nuts. This one in particular looks like its from a regular open world first person adventure game with the level of detail show here. Unbelievable that this is from a flight sim. This is the perfect excuse I have to get a new machine to replace this 16 year old PC of mine. And Win 10 support is ending in 12 months. Thanks for sharing those shots.

Nice checklist. As others have mentioned I would ditch the "defragging". Its a holdover from old systems, old spinners running old OS's. You cannot defrag SSD, Win 10/11 wont allow it. However 🙂 if you miss those colored squares theres a sim for that! https://defrag98.com/

Thats a good question and I should have mentioned it in my original comment. Unfortunately that screenshot you see is with the MET active. I use it regularly. I was hoping it would pull back cleaned-up Bing imagery. If I recall correctly the AI tech (Azure) was supposed to remove the clouds and replace them with surrounding clear terrain the Azure would use a reference.

I'm ready for the new game and doing circles wondering if I want it right at launch but part of me wants to wait and see if they will do justice to large swathes of the world that are neglected in FS20. For example Alaska, Central & South America. I fly a lot in those parts of the world and if I drop the large chunk of cash on FS24 and still see Bing imagery contaminated with clouds and FS9-style terrain I wont be thrilled. Example from FS20 flying towards Panama from Colombia. Those are clouds stuck on the Bing imagery.

I'm in the same frame of mind. I took a close look at the extra planes and have no interest in any of them so will get Premium Deluxe. // Some simmers have mentioned that they got the AE because they dont want to "miss out on features". This has made me curious. All editions have the same base game, the only thing is the AE has those extra 30 planes. So I'm wondering if those who are worried about missing out on future features are talking about those 30 planes? As per the Microsoft site: The Aviator Edition includes everything from the Premium Deluxe Edition plus the entire fleet of 30 Microsoft-published Marketplace aircraft developed for Microsoft Flight Simulator between 2021 and 2024. https://www.xbox.com/en-GB/games/microsoft-flight-simulator-2024 Because surely any feature updates to the game world will be applied to all editions, as they have in FS20.

Totally agree with this. I was so excited to download some amazing free bush airplanes (mods of the NX Cub). I watch so many YouTubes of back country flying in Alaska so I was eager to try it in MSFS. Bitterly bitterly disappointed with Alaska in the sim. A modded FSX with Orbx looks a million times better and XP12 looks better too. This is one of Americas most massive states, its a bush flying paradise, how did they neglect this place? Its a mess of clouded-over Bing textures and cartoon landscape. If they cant find clean Bing imagery surely they can use textures like FSX did and then put some dense forest autogen trees on top. Fingers crossed that FS24 gives us an Alaska and South America we want to fly in.

One of the most neglected regions in FS20 is Central & South America. In this part of the MSFS world the clouds have not been removed on the Bing maps making the visuals a hot mess. I just flew from Bogota to Panama City. Everything looked like it was covered in snow - including the Pacific coast of Colombia, heading up the Darian Gap and through to Panama. It really ruins immersion. Will FS24 use updated "cleaned up" Bing imagery? Cant they use AI to get rid of the clouds and fill them with jungle autogen? Wasn't Azure meant to do this?

Thanks for this link!

Oh ok thanks for the info. I was confused because in games seeing a "Premium Deluxe" edition usually means its the most expensive and has everything but I noticed the Aviator Edition costs more and at first didn't figure it until now - that is has 30 extra planes. I need to look at that list of planes to see if the price is worth it.