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I have all the Nusantara Crew sceneries and enjoy using them, my fave Indonesian developer is Gudisim followed by SuroboyoSim (their WARR Surabaya being one of my most regular visits), Mujago Aviation and BDO Aviation. There are many other Indonesian developer groups too - but the above are my favourite. Anyone venturing into MSFS Indonesian add-ons understand that most are 2020 & 2024 compatible, but usually not 2024 native. I only use 2020 when flying here. Most airports won't have terminal interiors etc, but their price reflects this - they are typically great value for money and give a authentic Indonesian "feel" to your flying. The base photographic scenery for most of Indonesia is quite decent compared to many other parts of Asia and sections of the country was updated as part of World Update 13 | Oceania, Hawaii, Antarctica (I guess Indonesia some how slipped into Oceania ha!).

Hi Gulf76 - I can confirm Aerosoft's WADD loads up just fine in 2024. It was a state of the art high quality airport when released in the early days of the 2020 era. It holds up really well and looks great - but it lacks details that have now become the norm like uber detailed car parks and terminal interiors etc.

I only fly Indonesia in 2020 - but I do also have 2024 so I will load WADD into it tomorrow and see how it is - I'll report back!

The only Bali WADD around is Aerosoft's - it was designed for 2020 and currently has duplicate windsocks. I have been meaning to do a small mod and put it up on flightsim.to to fix that as it has been a long time since any offical update came vis Aerosoft - I think the developer may be inactive. Other than Bali there is quite a lot of Indonesian airport sceneries and some developers are really excellent and their airports capture the feel of the real locations. All (that I'm aware of) are 2020 sceneries but many also work well in 2024. 2020 seems to be the main sim used in Indonesia. I live in Bali half my life, I flip in and out about every 60 days, so in the flightsim world I spend a lot of time flying Indonesia. Have a great stay!

An interesting discussion and after reading this thread and a similar on the offical MSFS forum I will jump in too! I have MSFS 2024, 2020 and X-Plane 12 all installed. I fly 2020 daily, XP12 occasionally and 2024 I start up really rarely, typically after a SimUpdate is released to just check it out. For my interests MSFS 2020 is my favourite (with Rex AccuSeason & Atmos) - I only fly the DA-62 and use it for IFR practice worldwide. If 2020 was to "go away" I would then throw all my time into X-Plane 12 leaving 2024 as my last option. Often in 2020 forum threads people posting talk about the end of the life of 2020... My view, I think many in a particular region of the world sometimes overlook that Microsoft is a global company. In my country, and many others when a product is sold consumer law requires the product to be fit for use (be able function) for a reasonable time. I my country that is typically a minimum of 5-7 years for digital (software) products after the last sale. Microsoft today still sell 2020 globally, so it's not being turned off anytime soon. My thinking about Microsoft's served world, the "digital twin". The main feature of MSFS 2020's SP16 was to unify the 2020 and 2024 global scenery, so there is a possibility that the global base for both 2020 and 2024 are now served from exactly the same database and servers. Just like a website doesn't have a different version of the website hosted for Safari, Edge or Chrome, it's possible that both 2020 and 2024 are both served from the same infrastructure and that the differences (ie cliff edge rendering and landscape TIN that are displayed in 2024) are the result of the application layer (ie 2020 or 2024 application) rather than the server. Even if Microsoft were to turn off the 2020 servers (assuming that 2020's servers are actually different to 2024) the offline ability allows the sim to continue to be used. 2020 airports and aircraft are local hard drive based, already available to 2020 are 3rd party alternative's to Microsoft's global twin and weather. So for me 2020 has a LONG life ahead of it and for the foreseeable future will be my daily fly!

Hi Christopher what static aircraft generator are you using? I'm using FSLTL's traffic injector (but not their models) - I use it to populate AIG statics. It's great, but always keen to try others as the injector database seems to not have coverage in some of the small Indonesian airports I fly in and out of.

2020 continues to be sold and supported by Microsoft. So Microsoft themselves see a reason for some people to use 2020.

Wot!!!! :) Of all subscriptions I have in my life Navigraph would be the last I would cancel! I am in aircraft (as a passenger) multiple times a month all over the world. To have airport and enroute charts for the whole world on my iPad, Mac, Windows as well as using it for flight simulation is somthing I never expected to see. So today as I type I'm at WADY Banyuwangl (in real life) - in Navigrah I have the complete collection of STAR, SID, Approach and Airport Charts. The free charts in MSFS 2024 have zero.

"mfahey - are you the mfahey of IFR Project? If so, I'm the fella that recently emailed you about that! Small world!" Ha yes Trent - that mfahey is me! Sorry about being so slack in the email replies, I travel pretty well continuously (in real life) :) I promise I will reply this week! Funny enough I may have a Scenery Disk 12, I certainly had one and flew it back in the day. When I'm at home in a few days I search my storage boxes, I haven't purposely ever thrown away any Sublogic, BAO and MSFS software, disks or manuals so there is a good chance I will find it.

Last week in one morning I had two error boxes pop up in 2020 with graphics card errors and then the only way out was to be crashed back to desktop. It was strange as it has been years (well it seems like it - definitely a LONG time) since I have even had a stutter, micro stutter or a crash to desktop. I was just go to all the cache locations and delete them all manually when I remembered had previously downloaded this tool but never had the need to use it. I ran it - and all is back to normal - totally fluid in 4K, no CTD, no stutters, no micro stutters. So from me a 5 Star review!

I too prefer the visuals in 2020 (I also own 2024 but rarely fly it). I fly everywhere, but over 75% of my time is in Australia and Indonesia where I have homes. For me 2020 (I use REX Seasons as well as ATMOS) provides far more realistic visuals for these countries. Often promoted as an 2024 adavantge - the 3D trees in 2024 may serve Nth American's and Europeans well, but for Australia, Africa, Central Asia arid and South East Asian tropical areas I think the 2020 models are more true to life. Also the colours in 2020 (again I use 2020 with ATMOS) are less saturated, less Las Vegas, Real Estate Promotional style or Cruise Ship Brochure style colouring which many feel is cartoonish :)

Gunther just letting you know - I love 'ya stuff! YKOW and Gosper's (along with everything else of course) being faves! Also thanks for supporting 2020 (OMG I hopefully this comment doesn't start a version war) - but for me 2020 and it's (god forbid) different tree models (rather than the 3D vibrant green models in 2024) provide a far more realistic Australian environment - particularly when used with Acuseason.

YLHI included in the World Update is great - but (in my humble opinion) if you already own the AUScene version or have been there in real life the AUScene airport is a better choice. The AUScene version is a work of fine art. Advantages on the AUScene version include (beyond just the overall feel of a scenery that took many months to develop) are there are KitKats for sale in the terminal cafe and VH-TQX Dash 8 is a static parked on the apron. VH-TQX in the AUScene scenery is in it's previous Qantas Link livery, it's now flying as Skytrans Australia in a totally white livery between Sydney YSSY and YLHI daily. https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/11772113

Hey can somebody please identify for me the airport shown in the opening scene of the Boomerang video.

I have both 2020 & 2024 installed and fly 90% of my time in 2020 with REX Seasons & Atmos. The only other things I would add to anyone following this thread and thinking about the two versions of the simulator - you quite often see people say they uninstalled 2020 and went to 2024 on "day one" or "first week" etc etc. Keep in mind that the current state of 2020 is RADICALLY different to the time when 2024 launched. It has gone through a series of stability updates and the global base scenery is identical to 2024 since 2020 service update 16. Also 2020 is still sold by Microsoft and service update 17 will be delivered later this year, so what I think is more relevant is the type of flying you enjoy, stability (based on your PC specs), the simulator workflow itself - ie is walk around a pro or con for you etc.