May 7, 20251 yr I recently watched a youtube video on how a (MS2020) flight can be saved and when reloaded at another time the flight restarts at the point where the user saved it refer Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 - Save & Load Flights. Even In Mid-Flight I tried using this method but before starting the flight ie with engines running, flight plan loaded, trim set for takeoff etc and later loaded the saved flight plan only to find that although the aircraft was parked at the correct location, the engines weren't running, the flight plan was not loaded, the trim was not set etc. Can someone advise if I have maybe missed something. Maybe it only works for flights that are already in the air? Or has some MS2020 update since the video tutorial was made mucked it all up? Thanks Regards John Gigabyte Z390 m/b, i7 9700K cpu, 16Gb Hyper X Fury 3200 ram, RTX2060 6Gb, Gigabyte 32" monitor, MSFS 2020 store edition
May 7, 20251 yr 5 hours ago, Jarnie said: although the aircraft was parked at the correct location, the engines weren't running Chances are what you are seeing is correct for the aircraft you are using. When you first start MSFS2020 and load your saved flight do you see your route on the world map before selecting FLY? Note: One of the main reasons I have not purchased MSFS2024 was not being able to Save a flight. Edited May 7, 20251 yr by vonmar Best Regards, Vaughan Martell PP-ASEL KDTW
May 7, 20251 yr Author Thanks Vaughan, I was pressed for time last night and was going to do some investigation such as using a different aircraft (maybe a stock MSFS aircraft as I had been using the Cessna C414AW) and also saving the flight while in the air. I will do that later and also check if the route is displayed on the world map and get back to you. John Regards John Gigabyte Z390 m/b, i7 9700K cpu, 16Gb Hyper X Fury 3200 ram, RTX2060 6Gb, Gigabyte 32" monitor, MSFS 2020 store edition
May 8, 20251 yr Hi John, You are welcome. On my C414 setup using FSUIPC: Saved C414 Flight at the gate with engines running. Will later load with the engines spooling down because Mixture levers go to cut off. Note: The engines will be running prior to selecting Ready to fly (screenshot). Edit: At this point I move Mixtures to full rich then use CTRL + E to start the engines at the gate. I then Load my flight plan from the PMS50 Garmin 750 Catalog. Edited May 8, 20251 yr by vonmar Best Regards, Vaughan Martell PP-ASEL KDTW
May 8, 20251 yr Author Thanks Vaughan, its annoying isn't it? I noticed that the author of the video I mentioned above was using the EXTRA 330 LT which I believe is a stock aircraft and due to the type of aircraft may not have a flight plan, the author does not mention that. I just saved and then restarted MSFS2020 loading the saved flight which was using a stock MSFS KingAir and although the starting point (parking) and the engines were running the flight plan was not there and the trim I had set was not correct t so maybe only MSFS aircraft 'work' AND I was using the GTN750 so maybe it isn't set up for loading an existing plan since it is an addon. Maybe I should check loading a flight plan using the built in avionics of the Kingair. Maybe another learned reader of this post has information about this. My next step in testing will be to save a flight which is already in the air to see what happens however I suspect that flight using 3rd party aircraft may not load as expected and that the GTN750 (addon) also may not load as expected. I just searched youtube for more tutorials on this and found one which explains how to restart a flight INFLIGHT and it uses Simbrief and you load the flight plan at the start and select a waypoint where ever you want and fly and MSFS will start the flight with the flight plan loaded and everything seemingly set and working except the AP is off. It didn't mention but I have to assume that the GTN750 will not have the flight plan loaded. The author was using an airliner which has an FMC and that is where you see the flight plan loaded in his tutorial. Have a look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_nYdJegSp4 Lots more testing for me. Also I note that our dear Asobo still has not released a fix for FS2020 not completely exiting requiring task manager to end task. Damned annoying since it was they who introduced the bug. Regards John Gigabyte Z390 m/b, i7 9700K cpu, 16Gb Hyper X Fury 3200 ram, RTX2060 6Gb, Gigabyte 32" monitor, MSFS 2020 store edition
May 8, 20251 yr Hi John, You are welcome. I did one edit to my last post for the C414. Note: I have not watched any of the videos you have previously posted. I only did a short test with the C414 to get you going. I will go back now to review you last post. Edited May 8, 20251 yr by vonmar Best Regards, Vaughan Martell PP-ASEL KDTW
May 8, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, Jarnie said: I was using the GTN750 Hi John, You are welcome. Was it a default or payware GTN750? Also it would be best to fully test one aircraft at a time. In the case of payware products the developer's manual may have specific information on saving a flight. Note: I save PMDG737-600 / 700 flight and they reload (gate or in flight) without a problem. Edited May 8, 20251 yr by vonmar Best Regards, Vaughan Martell PP-ASEL KDTW
May 8, 20251 yr Author Hi Vaughan, Thanks again for modifying your original reply. I was using the GTN750 downloaded from PMS. Aha I just remembered something. I have not paid a subscription yet and so using the freeware version cannot load a saved flight plan and I guess that also includes a flightplan which is part of a saved flight. The penny has dropped as they say. Surely that is the problem. It doesn't though doesn't 'address' the fact that the trim was not set to what I set it before saving, I must read the C414 manual (if all else fails read the manual!). Anyway maybe I should pay a subscription to PMS now that I have 'evaluated' the GTN750 and like it. And hello Detroit "Michigan's busiest airport and the world's sixth-largest airline hub" or should I say "Giday". John Regards John Gigabyte Z390 m/b, i7 9700K cpu, 16Gb Hyper X Fury 3200 ram, RTX2060 6Gb, Gigabyte 32" monitor, MSFS 2020 store edition
May 8, 20251 yr 41 minutes ago, Jarnie said: It doesn't though doesn't 'address' the fact that the trim was not set to what I set it before saving, Was this at the gate or in flight when you saved the flight? Note: I have the PMS50 GTN750 with lifetime subscription. After doing a flight plan I save it in the GTN750 Catalog for reloading for another flight. Best Regards, Vaughan Martell PP-ASEL KDTW
May 8, 20251 yr Author I was at the gate. And so you don't have any/many issues restarting a flight using the LOAD flight function with the C414? I have recently acquired the C414AW and really like it when flying short flights where I can learn and practice my approach/landing without waiting for the miles to go by ie shorter flight times. For longer flights I have the PMDG738 and like that for longer flights. Have you attempted to save/load a flight when in a flight using the C414 ie not at a gate? I was hoping to do a flight and save during the approach so that I could quickly get back to that point and practice approaches (and missed approaches, change of active runway etc) and so a very short flight. Regards John Gigabyte Z390 m/b, i7 9700K cpu, 16Gb Hyper X Fury 3200 ram, RTX2060 6Gb, Gigabyte 32" monitor, MSFS 2020 store edition
May 8, 20251 yr 23 minutes ago, Jarnie said: I was at the gate. And so you don't have any/many issues restarting a flight using the LOAD flight function with the C414? I have recently acquired the C414AW and really like it when flying short flights where I can learn and practice my approach/landing without waiting for the miles to go by ie shorter flight times. For longer flights I have the PMDG738 and like that for longer flights. Have you attempted to save/load a flight when in a flight using the C414 ie not at a gate? I was hoping to do a flight and save during the approach so that I could quickly get back to that point and practice approaches (and missed approaches, change of active runway etc) and so a very short flight. "I was at the gate. " Ok, my point here was to have you mention your situation details when you do a posts. "And so you don't have any/many issues restarting a flight using the LOAD flight function with the C414?" Yes I do. I had previously mentioned the problems I observed based on the problems you posted. "I have recently acquired the C414AW and really like it when flying short flights where I can learn and practice my approach/landing without waiting for the miles to go by ie shorter flight times." I do the same. For longer flights I have the PMDG738 and like that for longer flights. I do the same, as I previously mentioned. "Have you attempted to save/load a flight when in a flight using the C414 ie not at a gate?" No. "I was hoping to do a flight and save during the approach so that I could quickly get back to that point and practice approaches (and missed approaches, change of active runway etc) and so a very short flight. " Ok, let me know your results. Best Regards, Vaughan Martell PP-ASEL KDTW
May 8, 20251 yr Author Sorry Vaughan. I guess I was thinking when I posted the thread that there wasn't any difference between saving a flight at the gate or in the air and that I may have missed something when saving or loading a flight. I also forgot that the video tutorials never mentioned having a flight plan loaded just a free flight I guess. I just watched another tutorial on save/load a flight with an A320 and in it the author points out twhen loading a previously save flight the aircraft is positioned where it was when saved however the flight plan is not in the FMC but is easily reloaded and so it would appear that when loading a flight the plan needs to be manually reloaded which is much what you stated. It is past midnight where you are and I have taken up too much of your time but appreciate your responses. Maybe Thanks again. Regards John Gigabyte Z390 m/b, i7 9700K cpu, 16Gb Hyper X Fury 3200 ram, RTX2060 6Gb, Gigabyte 32" monitor, MSFS 2020 store edition
May 8, 20251 yr Author Vaughan I was concerned when you asked where I started my flight, was it at the gate, 17 hours ago, vonmar said: "I was at the gate. " Ok, my point here was to have you mention your situation details when you do a posts I just reread my initial post and it state On 5/7/2025 at 5:57 PM, Jarnie said: to find that although the aircraft was parked at the correct location, and . and Maybe it only works for flights that are already in the air? I assumed that the reader would know that I was at a gate, ramp etc. although I guess I could have been on the runway but I wouldn't have used the word parked if in a runway. Thanks again for your great help/ Edited May 8, 20251 yr by Jarnie last sentence Regards John Gigabyte Z390 m/b, i7 9700K cpu, 16Gb Hyper X Fury 3200 ram, RTX2060 6Gb, Gigabyte 32" monitor, MSFS 2020 store edition
May 12, 20251 yr Author FYI Sorry to resurrect this thread. Just got back to testing load flight plan etc. and I'm please to report that after I did a Save Flight (MSFS2020 function) during the flight (with the Cessna 414AW) and on restarting MSFS2020 and (select) Load Flight the flight started in the air where I saved it (as expected) however I had to do the following - The engines were running however the mixture levers were pulled back and so I had to move them forward to near full forward and Load the flight plan in the GTN750 using MENU > CATALOGUE > select the appropriate one (I had previously saved two different flight plans) and make it active. The previous active leg was set active without intervention. Not too difficult I thought. Regards John Gigabyte Z390 m/b, i7 9700K cpu, 16Gb Hyper X Fury 3200 ram, RTX2060 6Gb, Gigabyte 32" monitor, MSFS 2020 store edition
May 13, 20251 yr Author Exactly how Vaughan described with images above however it seemed that although the engines would be running before selecting Ready To Fly, the engines would need to be started after selecting Ready To Fly. Using a saved flight they were running after selecting Ready To Fly. Maybe they were 'windmilling' as the prop levers were not at the feather position? When I moved the mixture levers forward they 'burst into life'. Regards John Gigabyte Z390 m/b, i7 9700K cpu, 16Gb Hyper X Fury 3200 ram, RTX2060 6Gb, Gigabyte 32" monitor, MSFS 2020 store edition
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